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    Quote Originally Posted by mox View Post
    There is still a Defender clone being produced. Wonder for how much longer. Maybe only made in Left hand drive and sanctions could probably make new ones difficult for Australians to obtain. Check www.morattab.ir Then you need to look around for a Union Jack to click on unless able to understand the written Persian Language. It uses the Arabic alphabet, which is read from right to left and with 4 extra letters.


    Morattab has been producing Defender look alikes in Iran for many years. They originally obtained tooling from Santana in Spain. It produced Land Rovers under licence for a long time. then continued independently. The Santana PS10 could effectively have been described as a Series 4 Land Rover. They did not use coil springs or constant 4WD. Then this was superseded by the Iveco Massif, with a similar overall shaped body but apparently produced by current conventional means. However, the company more recently suffered disappointing sales, considerable financial losses and was closed down. I wonder if would be customers would have preferred the old model. Maybe a reason for LR to continue production of present Defender in parallel with new one for a while, as Series 3's were continued concurrently for a while with Countys.


    Note that the Morattab Defender clone is now known as a Herour. Not sure what differences from long running Morattab Pazhan, other than now a diesel engine is available. Presumably motor is sourced from Japan or Korea or at least built from design from there. as former V6 petrol was. Defender enthusiasts should find looking at Morattab Herour specifications interesting.
    Intresting. Front diff is on the left, rear diff is centred. Obviously no driveline parts interchange with landrover.

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    Dougal, maybe one driveline component from the current Morattab Herour which could be adapted to fit Defenders is the Salisbury Dana type rear axle. Need to change the crown wheel and pinion though because ratio is different. I wonder if Land Rover would have actually saved money by keeping them in Defenders for the last 12 or so years instead of the replacements which must have cost a fortune in warranty claims.

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    Sorry to anyone reading through this thread from the beginning there has been a number of threads merged. So at the beginning of the thread it may seem like some posts don't make sense with others, this is because the merging puts all posts in date order...despite which thread they have come from...

    As this topic is going to be discussed more and more as the date moves closer I thought it would be much better to have a central point to talk about it rather than different threads popping up all over the joint....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mox View Post
    There is still a Defender clone being produced. Wonder for how much longer. Maybe only made in Left hand drive and sanctions could probably make new ones difficult for Australians to obtain. Check www.morattab.ir Then you need to look around for a Union Jack to click on unless able to understand the written Persian Language. It uses the Arabic alphabet, which is read from right to left and with 4 extra letters.


    Morattab has been producing Defender look alikes in Iran for many years. They originally obtained tooling from Santana in Spain. It produced Land Rovers under licence for a long time. then continued independently. The Santana PS10 could effectively have been described as a Series 4 Land Rover. They did not use coil springs or constant 4WD. Then this was superseded by the Iveco Massif, with a similar overall shaped body but apparently produced by current conventional means. However, the company more recently suffered disappointing sales, considerable financial losses and was closed down. I wonder if would be customers would have preferred the old model. Maybe a reason for LR to continue production of present Defender in parallel with new one for a while, as Series 3's were continued concurrently for a while with Countys.


    Note that the Morattab Defender clone is now known as a Herour. Not sure what differences from long running Morattab Pazhan, other than now a diesel engine is available. Presumably motor is sourced from Japan or Korea or at least built from design from there. as former V6 petrol was. Defender enthusiasts should find looking at Morattab Herour specifications interesting.
    That's hilarious. They have even plagiarized the Vista-era Windows Media Player interface on their website.

    The Defender actually makes pretty good sense as an enthusiast kit-car. You can basically replace everything on it with a couple of spanners and a rivet gun. They are also much more hand-assembled than modern cars.

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    Well, "time is marching on", & although some Defender models are no longer available, I haven't noticed any change in new or used pricing,..still some good prices in both.
    I reckon if anyone's only even thinking about a new one, with the final date of production being 20/12/15, & the fact that it takes an order around 6 months to get here, ya'd really want to be getting serious now. The reason I say that is that IMHO, there will definitely be a last minute "surge" in buyers wanting something they'll not be able to get in the future, there'll be a few special editions etc, so who knows how long it will be before the Defender order bank at Solihull is full, before orders "close"?,......and also how long it will be before Aussie Dealers start ramping up the price for vehicles that are "no longer available"?
    Pickles.

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    I reckon the "Special Editions" will go for a motza as well
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    During a visit to my Dealer the other day, I was talking to the Sales Manager, who told me that Defender orders were now restricted and that they were only able to order one new Defender per month.
    Any other similar feedback from other Dealers?
    Pickles.

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    There will always be niche Defender manufacturers.

    Urban Warrior anyone ?? .. but 700HP

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    When enquiring about ordering a defender I asked the sales man about a cut off date for orders and was told that they have not been advised on when that would be. Seems to be conflicting information out there??

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