All discussions relating to the Defenders end of production

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Originally Posted by Landybitz

I would say if Land Rover don't aim for the Jeep, Toyota, Nissan, Ford etc driver, then theres no point at all in making a new Defender, hardly going to keep the factory open selling to enthusiasts.

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Yeah, there's no debate - it has to happen - it's a do or die situation - it's just that we're just gonna become the same as the rest because there'll be soccer and school mums driving them and they'll become regarded just like a Pajero or Prado, etc and in my book that's more than a bit sad :(

Its more than sad, but times have changed and Land Rover are now focused on a very different market.

Whats with the negativity?,the new defender will be worth the wait. Pat

I'm not being negative Pat or at least that wasn't my intent to project that sentiment.
It sort of went off track - YOLO said wouldn't it be great to see LR make a product that EVERYONE wants , they'll sell heaps and that'll be great for LR - so true cos it would ensure they survive.
I was basically trying to say it would be sad to see our individuality, our LR camaraderie, blah, blah, blah, get swallowed up so we're (those who've been loyal all these years) all just like the Nissan, Toymota club, etc. The new "Deefer" will be blowing smoke our his arse about how good his new Defender (or whatever it's gonna be called) is and I guess the rest of us will be like the current Series owners. Just a sentimental thought, that's all.
If its as good as they say, I reckon the Defender replacement will make the current crop of Deefers look like Series 3 currently appears - that's when I want to buy a 2013 - 2015 Deefer- when people jump ship/ "upgrade" into the new one.
My concern is the Deefer replacement could be as expensive as the current Discos and RR's. I know a young mechanic who did a headlight replacement on a newish RR just last week - $2,200.00 - that's right - over two thousand dollars! - (obviously globe and igniter). Where would we be if the Def replacement starts costing even half or even quarter of that sort of dough for maintenance. :)

And Land Rover are putting the brakes on Independent garages having the ability to offer parts and servicing, only a few will have the privilege and I am sure they will have to pay a big fee to do so.

Well, I guess I won't even be upgrading from the old 300Tdi if that's the case - none of this electrickery stuff for me :D

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Originally Posted by Didge

I'm not being negative Pat or at least that wasn't my intent to project that sentiment.
It sort of went off track - YOLO said wouldn't it be great to see LR make a product that EVERYONE wants , they'll sell heaps and that'll be great for LR - so true cos it would ensure they survive.
I was basically trying to say it would be sad to see our individuality, our LR camaraderie, blah, blah, blah, get swallowed up so we're (those who've been loyal all these years) all just like the Nissan, Toymota club, etc. The new "Deefer" will be blowing smoke our his arse about how good his new Defender (or whatever it's gonna be called) is and I guess the rest of us will be like the current Series owners. Just a sentimental thought, that's all.
If its as good as they say, I reckon the Defender replacement will make the current crop of Deefers look like Series 3 currently appears - that's when I want to buy a 2013 - 2015 Deefer- when people jump ship/ "upgrade" into the new one.
My concern is the Deefer replacement could be as expensive as the current Discos and RR's. I know a young mechanic who did a headlight replacement on a newish RR just last week - $2,200.00 - that's right - over two thousand dollars! - (obviously globe and igniter). Where would we be if the Def replacement starts costing even half or even quarter of that sort of dough for maintenance. :)

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$2200 for a globe ;),I replaced the whole light/blinker unit on my L322 RR,$240 for the housing,genuine part. Pat

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Originally Posted by Didge

Well, I guess I won't even be upgrading from the old 300Tdi if that's the case - none of this electrickery stuff for me :D

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Yep,big nasty stuff that electrickery mumbo jumbo,how do you stop your candles blowing out while your driving?. Pat

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Originally Posted by Landybitz

And Land Rover are putting the brakes on Independent garages having the ability to offer parts and servicing, only a few will have the privilege and I am sure they will have to pay a big fee to do so.

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The big nasty Land Rover corporation picking on the little guy eh. :confused:. Pat

I don't think its LR Picking on anyone, they just want to make more profit in house, can't blame them for that, and most people who buy a new Land Rover now or in the future will not service it them selfs, if you can afford 100K ++ then a $1000 service will not break the bank.