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Why does everyone think the dual cab light duty ute market is endless? ...Surely building something fantastic that fills a category that no one else is filling properly (ie HD 4WD work vehicle) is going to be more successful by any measure, than jumping in to an already over crowded market of sameness.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
Sadly the new Defender wont even be a 76 series as that is going too. I doubt it will be aluminium either. To conform to it will have wrap around bumpers and air bags, and if they want broad appeal plus economy it will have more computers in it than NASA. Whatever they write on the front it wont be a Defender.
Chris
I was a Toyota guy for many years. I like to buy brand new. Last Toyota I bought new was in 1999 I think, a Hilux. Replaced it with something else (non-4x4) in 2006. Then 2yrs ago bought a Defender largely because I couldn't stomach what the new Hilux/Navara/Ranger et al have become.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
If the new defender is like any of those dual cabs.... *sigh*. :(
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Originally Posted by MrLandy
I agree completely. What the world needs now (could be a song there...) is a tough, durable workhorse truck more capable than the utes and more modern than the Defender/Toyota 76. It should be possible to wash it out, repair it using commonly-available parts, mass produce it around the world and adapt it to create versions for local needs. Then they can add tarted-up versions for the yuppies later, after they get the basics right. My opinion.
Looking back at comments from Jerry the Land Rover Face to the Media for the new Defender, I sigh reading statements like, the Defender needs to sell more than the 20,000 etc that it does now. So my comment would be "Well Hold the Phone YOUNG Fella". May as well be governed by Layland. Or perhaps L/Rover is by some Legacy still is with someone at the helm!
All Defender needed to compete in numbers world wide is a longer seating position, (how hard would that be to achieve!!), a motor that achieves some of those performance characteristics from lower revs, perhaps a Large Diesel or V8. Older models had a V8. Also Brakes to Match the load carrying capasity, read AGVM. Finally a wider Cabin, something akin to the 6WD Ambulance or Workshop and Troop Carrier. You almost had it!
Now my final ponder is, "what is the Farmer and Tradie going to purchase"? Don't forget you roots, o'le mate.
Kindest Regards,
PeterW
Rangers and Hiluxes and an assortment of lesser vehicles, just like they have been doing for the last 20 years.....Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoUp
Regards,
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Maybe I am being naive,
But I expect/hope that LR will see the opportunity to meet the needs of MOD , UN, NGO 4wd market, which will also suit the agricultural and H.D off road market, and not another dual cab clone that snaps a chassis with more than 2 cartons of beer in the back.
So far LR have ticked the boxes in the other segments they have addressed.
I think it will be in aluminium... as they are building the new RR in that now. Lots of tech development into the product.Quote:
Originally Posted by cafe latte
Too early for a composite monocoque I feel... but if so that would certainly be ground breaking stuff for an immensely strong and light Defender... and as well as also lasting forever, it would be rust proof too!! :)
Another European offering on the way.
Not a bad tradies ute
V6 TD 190kw,620nm
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...015/07/114.jpg
Aluminium still corrodes unless protected properly but yes it will last longer than steel