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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Only a few years ago classic Falcons, Monaros, GTS etc were pulling over 250k

    Today they're back down below 80k.
    That is a HUGE drop! Why has this happened?

    But at $250k, not really surprised...

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOLO110 View Post
    That is a HUGE drop! Why has this happened?

    But at $250k, not really surprised...
    Changes in fashion, to put it bluntly. Same sort of thing happens all the time with any "antique", where the price is determined by a fixed supply (they aren't making them like that any more) and how many people want one.

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    Hi all,

    just a heads up for anyone interested in the two new 'limited edition' Defenders - the dealers are now taking orders for them.

    I was talking to the sales manager at MLR yesterday, and they have been given their allocation. Two Heritage models (a 90 and a 110) and two Adventure models (again a 90 and a 110).

    Australian prices have not yet been confirmed, and delivery is possibly around October (again - to be confirmed).

    Not sure about all the dealers, but MLR are taking deposits subject to final price release (ie if you are not happy with the price when it is released, you can cancel the order and get your deposit back).

    The Heritage 90 and Adventure 110 had already been 'taken'. So if anyone is interested, you had better get in quick and place your order.

    cheers,

    Wayne

    PS: the Heritage 110 is also taken - I put my deposit down yesterday

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    I was able to place my order for a 110 Adventure back on the 18th of Jan, subject to final pricing.... We'll see what they come in at!

    I might be auctioning off my place in the queue if they are too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NatGreg View Post
    I was able to place my order for a 110 Adventure back on the 18th of Jan, subject to final pricing.... We'll see what they come in at!

    I might be auctioning off my place in the queue if they are too much.
    I will be very interested to see the pricing...

    My MY14 110 cost less here that the equivalent spec one in the UK...

    The Heritage 90 edition is UK ?28.5k and at todays exchange rate, that is nearly $56,000... less import, customs and transport... I will be very interested to see what they will ask here?

    Cheers, Pete

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    I don't like marketing manipulation

    This sounds very Manipulative, show us your intrest then we will tell you the price, it is a trick marketing/ estate agents play in the City on New developments. You Can't tell me Land Rover Solihull can't calculate the price today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOLO110 View Post
    I will be very interested to see the pricing...

    My MY14 110 cost less here that the equivalent spec one in the UK...

    The Heritage 90 edition is UK ?28.5k and at todays exchange rate, that is nearly $56,000... less import, customs and transport... I will be very interested to see what they will ask here?

    Cheers, Pete
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    Quote Originally Posted by LouisW View Post
    This sounds very Manipulative, show us your intrest then we will tell you the price, it is a trick marketing/ estate agents play in the City on New developments. You Can't tell me Land Rover Solihull can't calculate the price today.
    I don't think it's manipulative mate.

    The UK ? GBP prices are already published on all versions. I guess given the volatility of the GBP to AUD exchange rate recently, with the AUD a lot weaker, that will make the car landed here more expensive... and build/delivery UK dates are in August/September so the AUD may be even weaker by then!

    I guess it's also basic supply and demand... that will of course drive price for a very limited number in OZ.

    I would personally be surprised to see the Heritage 90 4 seat wagon at less than $ 70k AUD given it is ? 31K GBP. Time will tell, but they will all get sold FAST, as they did in the UK... 2 days after 'release' they were all pre-ordered!

    Cheers,

    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOLO110 View Post
    I don't think it's manipulative mate.

    The UK ? GBP prices are already published on all versions. I guess given the volatility of the GBP to AUD exchange rate recently, with the AUD a lot weaker, that will make the car landed here more expensive... and build/delivery UK dates are in August/September so the AUD may be even weaker by then!

    I guess it's also basic supply and demand... that will of course drive price for a very limited number in OZ.

    I would personally be surprised to see the Heritage 90 4 seat wagon at less than $ 70k AUD given it is ? 31K GBP. Time will tell, but they will all get sold FAST, as they did in the UK... 2 days after 'release' they were all pre-ordered!

    Cheers,

    Pete
    Actually it is a bit of a scam as most large import export companies will fix part, if not most of their currency rates for 6-12 months so their stock is not changing prices weekly. This especially applies to cars as the local division will be given a set order ,which is even more relevant to a limited edition, in which case you know the numbers exactly. This is so they can say let's fix the price to December on 80-100% of the numbers from last year, but do an increase in June if they are selling over that and then average the exchange difference across the whole stock if we sell more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frantic View Post
    Actually it is a bit of a scam as most large import export companies will fix part, if not most of their currency rates for 6-12 months so their stock is not changing prices weekly. This especially applies to cars as the local division will be given a set order ,which is even more relevant to a limited edition, in which case you know the numbers exactly. This is so they can say let's fix the price to December on 80-100% of the numbers from last year, but do an increase in June if they are selling over that and then average the exchange difference across the whole stock if we sell more.
    Yes, when we were waiting for our 90 during the second half of '13, we were told the same thing about pricing.
    But Celebration models, whilst the exchange scenario is the same, I don't know about "pricing". From what I've seen on here & the Def 11 forum, most orders for these models have been made with no idea of pricing.
    So, particularly in Aus, where there will be so few, I don't know whether Dealers will be able to "ramp up" the pricing to whatever they want, or be TOLD by JLR what to sell for. I believe that (within reason) it will be the latter, but that Dealers will simply & easily be able to get full RRP. I suppose prior to this stage of the sale process, JLR will have "inserted" their "Fair Cop/Margin" too?
    Pickles.

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