SD Roll Cage

Getting an internal hoop engineered is not a big deal as I thought it would be, it basically just needs to meet clearance tolerances for the passengers and drivers head and thats about it, the only part of the SD cage the engineer wasn't so sure was the part that mounts behind the drivers head on the seat belt mount, he couldnt make the call based on pictures and would need to measure it and I didnt have such luxury.

The Engineers and Cage builders explanation of how a cage not fixed at all 6 points work, took me a while to get my head around but I completely understand it now and it's quite clever. Supporting the roof from collapsing and protecting the occupants is the only focus and this can be done a couple of ways. For racing its a different story.

But a custom cargo barrier made of thick pipe is also a good option like Nplus1 stated as it doesn't have clearance tolerances to meet to required engineering. LIke a roll hoop you see on tray back utes.

Cheers.

We have now brought in a number of cages, if anyones Interested we have a container leaving in 3 weeks. Good savings on shipping.

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Originally Posted by Landybitz

We have now brought in a number of cages, if anyones Interested we have a container leaving in 3 weeks. Good savings on shipping.

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how much are they and would they fit on a TD5 110?

This is an impressive set-up and I too have a Puma I would like to fit out.

Who produces the kit?

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Originally Posted by Capes

This is an impressive set-up and I too have a Puma I would like to fit out.

Who produces the kit?

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Saftey Devices (SD)

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Originally Posted by Landybitz

We have now brought in a number of cages, if anyones Interested we have a container leaving in 3 weeks. Good savings on shipping.

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$$$$?????

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I don't really understand why a structure such as the SD cage that adds safety where there is none could be illegal; but I realize if I want one to be legal I have to play the game and try and get around the silly laws. I have a cunning plan.

If a roll cage minus the internal hoop can be classed as a ladder rack/roof rack, is it possible that an internal hoop minus the roll cage could be classed as a cargo barrier if it had steel mesh or perspex attached to it?


If I were to...
A) Get the hoop installed (with mesh or perspex attached) then certified as a cargo barrier, and then remove it.
B ) Get the external roll cage installed, certified as a ladder rack and then reinstall the hoop.
Have I got around the BS?

How would I find out if this is possible?

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Originally Posted by alittlebitconcerned

How would I find out if this is possible?

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Lol, the hard way!

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Originally Posted by alittlebitconcerned

I don't really understand why a structure such as the SD cage that adds safety where there is none could be illegal; but I realize if I want one to be legal I have to play the game and try and get around the silly laws. I have a cunning plan.

If a roll cage minus the internal hoop can be classed as a ladder rack/roof rack, is it possible that an internal hoop minus the roll cage could be classed as a cargo barrier if it had steel mesh or perspex attached to it?


If I were to...
A) Get the hoop installed (with mesh or perspex attached) then certified as a cargo barrier, and then remove it.
B ) Get the external roll cage installed, certified as a ladder rack and then reinstall the hoop.
Have I got around the BS?

How would I find out if this is possible?

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You can run an internal hoop with mesh behind the passengers seat and call it a cargo barrier, essentially that is what I have except I also have a hoop behind the front row seats as well.

A crab bar cost $1100 so I think this is a no brainer to do. The only issues are that the bars must be a certain distance from the heads of the occupants as to avoid head collision with it. This is why I am not sure an SD hoop behind the drivers seat will clear the tolerances, it basically sits right beside the drivers head, they had to slant my hoop away from the drivers head to pass the clearances. I can't see a hoop behind the passenger seat being a problem.

I wouldnt be afraid of engineering something, its not that expensive or unreasonable. Alot of their guidelines are established from a large database of vehicle accidents.

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Originally Posted by alittlebitconcerned

I don't really understand why a structure such as the SD cage that adds safety where there is none could be illegal; but I realize if I want one to be legal I have to play the game and try and get around the silly laws. I have a cunning plan.

If a roll cage minus the internal hoop can be classed as a ladder rack/roof rack, is it possible that an internal hoop minus the roll cage could be classed as a cargo barrier if it had steel mesh or perspex attached to it?


If I were to...
A) Get the hoop installed (with mesh or perspex attached) then certified as a cargo barrier, and then remove it.
B ) Get the external roll cage installed, certified as a ladder rack and then reinstall the hoop.
Have I got around the BS?

How would I find out if this is possible?

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I really don't think the problem is trying to hide the fact you "really" have a roll cage fitted from the police. The problem arises should you have an accident. The insurance loss adjuster is the one you have to convince that's it's a roof rack/hoop/cargo barrier. And my money's on him saying its a none complianced roll bar and refusing the claim. And do you have the money to sue an insurance company?
What if you run up the bum of a Bently?

Your choice. But not sure id like to take the chance.

Cheers,
Nino.