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    Keep up the good fight Digger. It will all be good in the end once you get over this rough patch.

    Oil starvation seems the culprit. It would be interesting to know how the oil supply path goes in this motor. Could it potentially also affected other bearings in the engine, or do they think it's just limited to the turbo oil feed?
    At Melrose I thought it might have been swarf or something in the oil galleries or a restrictor which causes the intermittant low oil pressure to the turbo.

    If you have any input on how the issue is rectified, It would be interesting to see an oil analysis done to see if there is any other damage (signs of bearing material, and if possible if it can differentiate between turbo bearings and big end / main bearings). Also see what the oil filter has collected once cut open.
    Once dealer involvement with the car ceases (ie out of warranty), might be worth investigating some sort of oil pressure sensor on the turbo oil feed line, hooked to a big red light and buzzer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger View Post
    Keep up the good fight Digger. It will all be good in the end once you get over this rough patch.

    Oil starvation seems the culprit. It would be interesting to know how the oil supply path goes in this motor. Could it potentially also affected other bearings in the engine, or do they think it's just limited to the turbo oil feed?
    At Melrose I thought it might have been swarf or something in the oil galleries or a restrictor which causes the intermittant low oil pressure to the turbo.

    If you have any input on how the issue is rectified, It would be interesting to see an oil analysis done to see if there is any other damage (signs of bearing material, and if possible if it can differentiate between turbo bearings and big end / main bearings). Also see what the oil filter has collected once cut open.
    Once dealer involvement with the car ceases (ie out of warranty), might be worth investigating some sort of oil pressure sensor on the turbo oil feed line, hooked to a big red light and buzzer

    I would hope that at over $50k I should be able to drive without doing all that to the car!! The big red light could activate every few hundred kms to indicate it was self destructing if performance continues as it is!

    They have checked and found that the engine did have the engine oil pump recall done before it was sent out and put in my car.

    I am well over this now and contemplating bowing to the pressure of selling it for something else that will get me there. Not pleased my only long weekend off for the year and my only holiday get wrecked by this fault. I end up with no faith in this particular car... Our "reliable" car is now the wife's Magna . Not my dream car the defender! ( a Friday car I'm sure as others are rapt with theirs!!)

    Maybe we should keep the defender and sell the wife's Magna, then we could buy a tow truck to use with the defender... I'm a bit miffed to be honest!!

    I am copping it left and right here too as I have been a huge supporter of the Land Rover brand and locally they know me as the guy with the land rovers. People often come to me to ask me about land rovers both old and new and I am not sure what I should be saying to them now.

    Anyway , solitaires have been a life raft in this ocean of vehicle faults so we will have to see what happens next.

    Hopefully my blind faith in land rovers can be restored... But it will take time and probably a miracle. They assure me Land Rover will look after me and only time will tell but at the moment they seem to be true to that.
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    Kinda sorry I patted the wrong tail light now...

    But, on the upside, Bear DID win the 110 class at Melrose, due to, in no small part, a cabin filled with skilled drivers and navigators.

    Even the copper we spoke to while doing the trial, seemed impressed by him. Surprised we didn't get a caution for the loud music thou.

    Bear is only in hibernation, and once he gets over his sore head, he will be back growling at the Magna, and taking his rightful place at the top of the driveway.

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    Let's all pitch in and buy Digger a bunch of lotto tickets so he can rip the faulty ticker out of Bear and drop 3.2 litres of 5 cylinder goodness in it!
    Keep your chin up mate, I'd followed your thread here before we'd met and once you called over the radio that you were getting a familiar noise my heart sank like a stone. Glad that Land Rover seem to be looking after you, and hopefully bear will rise next Melrose, resplendent in all his white, boxy glory.
    And hey, at least now you have a bunch of east coast ratbags scattered about to come and help if you're out in whoop whoop and need a hand/tow/cursing companion
    Best of luck with it mate.

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    I dropped this thread at the start. I'll read it through and keep myself posted from now on.
    Cheers, Billy.
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    sound like you have had a terrible time digger. even luck isnt this bad
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    One word came to mind when I read back over this thread Digger:stoic. That's how I would describe you and your persistence through your cruel and unusual tribulations. I hope your troubles end soon and you get the joy out of Bear you have earned.
    By the way, on the radio issue, I've noticed that occasionally I inadvertently hit the button that unlocks the radio face and it turned off until I push the face back in. Another stupid antitheft device which isn't necessary in lis land of honest soles.
    Cheers, Billy.
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    A photo for you Digger...

    The Discoveries form a solemn honour guard around their fallen older brother.



    No oil spewing out, no bonnet up. Just a quiet, dignified rest while Bear awaits his chariot taking him to Recovery.
    We'll see him again
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    Hey Digger - that is a bad thread. Am impressed at your level headedness in extremely trying circumstances.

    I only had a small percentage of the problems you have had with my PUMA. But I decided to sell mine and get something infinitely duller but probably more reliable. I have gone for a basic, white, manual, 3.2L 6 speed Ford Ranger ExtraCab ute.

    I miss waving at other Defenders (I still wave, but they have no idea why!). And I miss the character that they have. But the Ranger is growing on me.

    I am waiting until the 2018 Defender comes out, then I'm going to wait for a couple more years until they get the bugs out of it, and maybe then I'll get back into a Defender.

    Seems like you'll forever be wondering when the next major breakdown is going to whack you again. It's hard to re-gain confidence in a vehicle when it's let you down so badly, so many times.

    Am hoping you don't get to post any more horror stories on this thread. The only real positive is how well Land Rover have looked after you, but soon that's going to come to an end....

    Cheers
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    HTFU,
    or if you prefer Digger,,
    Welcome to MY world!
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