Rear diff issues

I have just contacted my Stealer to see if i can still buy the extended warranty. You guys are all scaring me ......

I have been owning Ford Falcons and GQ Nissan Patrols so have never experienced issues like these. All 4 vehicles between 350k - 550k on the clock and just keep plodding along.

Like some say, you only hear about the bad ones but jeez ..... there are a LOT OF BAD ONES from essentially new cars with a development history longer than any car out there. Maybe just price in the Ashcrofts to the purchase price and add it to the list with the ex-box, RAI and recovery point must haves ......

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Mate,mines been all over Oz and now has almost 100,000k's with stuff all issue's,the drive flanges are worn and I changed the battery because it dropped a cell,most likely from all the corrigations it's been on,after that amount of K's in those conditions a battery and two flanges isn't really a reason to panic. Pat

Thought I'd got away with a good set but no 40k service yesterday revealed silver oil in the front and wear in the rear. Car is 18 months old now with 38k on the clock just terrible QA from Land Rover. I'll be ringing LRA to to tell them of there shoddy product but not going down the path of replacing with more rubbish. I'll be driving them until they don't work then getting LRA to collect it from where it stops. If it makes it through warranty I can just replace the diff centres with a better product. Those Ashcroft centres seem to be the most mentioned product on this thread. Is that a fix for front and rear diffs as my rear diff is letting go in a different way to the front? Not sure mechanic explained it to me but lots of words I didn't understand so didn't sink in. The visual was enough. Ill end on a positive and say the rest of the car is great loving it if I have to drop a few grand on the differentials so be it no biggie.

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Originally Posted by 78RRman

Thought I'd got away with a good set but no 40k service yesterday revealed silver oil in the front and wear in the rear. Car is 18 months old now with 38k on the clock just terrible QA from Land Rover. I'll be ringing LRA to to tell them of there shoddy product but not going down the path of replacing with more rubbish. I'll be driving them until they don't work then getting LRA to collect it from where it stops. If it makes it through warranty I can just replace the diff centres with a better product. Those Ashcroft centres seem to be the most mentioned product on this thread. Is that a fix for front and rear diffs as my rear diff is letting go in a different way to the front? Not sure mechanic explained it to me but lots of words I didn't understand so didn't sink in. The visual was enough. Ill end on a positive and say the rest of the car is great loving it if I have to drop a few grand on the differentials so be it no biggie.

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Yep, Ashcroft is an option front and rear.

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Originally Posted by Wildcard8

I have just contacted my Stealer to see if i can still buy the extended warranty. You guys are all scaring me ......

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Land Rover don't do an extended warranty on the Defenders. Mostly because of the reasons above.
To me it seems that Land Rover were happy to keep replacing the noisy diffs under warranty. Now that it's out of warranty and still noisy they don't care at all

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Originally Posted by 78RRman

Thought I'd got away with a good set but no 40k service yesterday revealed silver oil in the front and wear in the rear. Car is 18 months old now with 38k on the clock just terrible QA from Land Rover. I'll be ringing LRA to to tell them of there shoddy product but not going down the path of replacing with more rubbish. I'll be driving them until they don't work then getting LRA to collect it from where it stops. If it makes it through warranty I can just replace the diff centres with a better product. Those Ashcroft centres seem to be the most mentioned product on this thread. Is that a fix for front and rear diffs as my rear diff is letting go in a different way to the front? Not sure mechanic explained it to me but lots of words I didn't understand so didn't sink in. The visual was enough. Ill end on a positive and say the rest of the car is great loving it if I have to drop a few grand on the differentials so be it no biggie.

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Steady up there tiger,your diffs are on thier first oil change from new so there will be metal in the oil,all mechanical parts make metal when new,the reason it's important to change the oils on time at 40K,diffs and gearbox's make metal because they have teeth that are constantly coming in and out of mesh. Pat

Thanks Pat I hope this is the case.

...Doesn't explain the movement in the crosspin it also had though Pat...:(

The issues with that particular front diff are; Backlash was more than usual, drained the oil and looking in through the filler plug you can see the crosspin and hemisphere quite clearly. I saw that the crosspin is starting to move around in the carrier, (the rolled retaining pin is also protruding out a bit too much to be fully 'in'), the oil was silvery and IMO this is where most of it has come from. Yes there is a bit of initial wear in new components but coupled with the extra backlash evident I would be checking it again at the next service.

The diff is quiet, and so is the rear one so no need to panic at this point. I didn't mean to cause a stir, just that it is starting to do what a lot of them do, so we need to monitor it. It is so minor at the moment that LRA wouldn't replace it, we are waiting until it becomes more obvious.

JC

JC,why are 20 year old P38RR's getting around without these problems?,it's time for us to send LR head office a please explain. Pat

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Originally Posted by PAT303

JC,why are 20 year old P38RR's getting around without these problems?,it's time for us to send LR head office a please explain. Pat

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I am trying but am not having any luck. Have spoke to LRA numerous times, to the point where I feel they are not returning me calls because of it. I seriously believe that there needs to be the next step taken with these poor quality diffs.
For every ones information LRA we're not impressed at all with my emails to Land Rover UK about how bad my treatment has been.
I still have a noisy rear diff so nothing has come of it yet.
I think that everyone with a noisy rear diff needs to make Land Rover Australia well aware of it so that something that can be done.

Land Rover have openly told me that they will and do not take 3rd party advise into account and even if I am to get a diff specialist or a land rover specialist diagnose the noise. They aren't going to do anything about it because "they're" mechanics (which have driven the car and have acknowledged that it's noisy) an they're engineers (whom haven't driven the car or even seen it) have said no there isn't anything wrong with it.
I'm at a point where I can't speak to anyone that can or is willing to do anything, feel like I am at the end of the line...