Defender 90 big enough?

Agree with Steane the first gear is diabolical - I put a Terrafirma s/s silencer replacement pipe on and this allow the turbo to wind up a little quicker I think as unless a steep slope I start in 2nd gear without riding the clutch....great burning off other vehicles at the lights that swap lines after being behind you thinking you are a slow Landy...especially when they merge back to a single lane and end up behind you again....yes, I am easily entertained.

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Originally Posted by Tikka7mm08

Agree with Steane the first gear is diabolical - I put a Terrafirma s/s silencer replacement pipe on and this allow the turbo to wind up a little quicker I think as unless a steep slope I start in 2nd gear without riding the clutch....great burning off other vehicles at the lights that swap lines after being behind you thinking you are a slow Landy...especially when they merge back to a single lane and end up behind you again....yes, I am easily entertained.

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The little 2.2 doesn't hang around, I quite like it. I had a Wrangler the week before and the 90 rides better and feels more alive in a good way (less isolated).

More I drive it the more I like it:D

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Originally Posted by Sue

I'm pretty sure that it would do just was well as any other car.. and if it did go over I would almost lay money down that you even without airbags would be more protected in a defender than some of the other tin cans out there. :)

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I'll take a crash in my D2 with airbags and crumple zones over your defender :D. No crumple zones mean all the inertia of a crash goes through the occupants. One of the main reasons I no longer own a deefer. Anything under 15kph or a slow tip over and you'll be fine though ;)

10 months, 22 countries, 2 continents last year in the 90 :D

Agree with the above. If you have a crash in a Deefer it is going to be nasty, no crumple zone and no 'real' structure.

I have seen people who have hit a wall and the whole body moved forward 6 inches, shearing all the mounts, the other rolled his 110 on the motorway and the roof collapsed down to the dashboard. Defenders are not safe vehicles, nobody can really argue against that.

G

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I think its safe because solid chassis, command driving position, ventilated ABS disc brakes and full time 4x4 traction control. Actually I really don't want stupid secondary safety devices fitted like crumple zones and air bags because they aren't needed unless you are soft and/or queer.

Also if you put a roof rack or a trailer on you can carry heaps of stuff:)

My 08 Puma 90 has neither ABS or air bags...if both were on there when I got I would feel happy...and I'm neither soft or ....well you get the idea.

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Originally Posted by JimR

I think its safe because solid chassis, command driving position, ventilated ABS disc brakes and full time 4x4 traction control. Actually I really don't want stupid secondary safety devices fitted like crumple zones and air bags because they aren't needed unless you are soft and/or queer.

Also if you put a roof rack or a trailer on you can carry heaps of stuff:)

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Mate, keep your homophobia to yourself if you don't mind. And I would argue that crumple zones and airbags are not stupid and save thousands of lives a day around the world. But if appreciating safety makes me soft or find the same sex attractive in your view I couldn't really give a ****. ;)

Oh and you might want to check the offroad maximum roof capacity of your 90. If it's like my old 110, it should be a max of 30kgs whilst off road. But I assume only soft people or those blokes that like blokes that care about raising your centre of gravity and making your vehicle more prone to rolling over anyway. So you should be apples :cool:

Hi First post,

With just the two of us we find it fine, magggiloina roof tent up top and well organised inside it works ok for us...but a 110 would be nice ;)

Regards

Les