Has anyone swapped the indicator to the right?

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Whatever we think, it is very efficient for for the manufacturer as they only have to make a steering column for one type instead of having to have a duplicate parts manufacture and supply chain for essentially the one assembly.

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What annoys me about manufacturers is they use a different layout for each model. Land Rover are bad if you swap from Defender to Discovery if you want to use the wipers or high beam. The worst is T*y##ta, with so many models, each one has switches and levers in different spots. If you are jumping from car to car do they expect you to read the manual for just a twenty minute one off drive?

Jeff

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Originally Posted by Jeff

What annoys me about manufacturers is they use a different layout for each model. Land Rover are bad if you swap from Defender to Discovery if you want to use the wipers or high beam. The worst is T*y##ta, with so many models, each one has switches and levers in different spots. If you are jumping from car to car do they expect you to read the manual for just a twenty minute one off drive?

Jeff

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Absolutely have to agree with you on this one, in fact why isn't there an ISO standard for steering column controls.

They don't move the pedals around for fashion, why should the other driver controls be any different.

Amazed the ADR gods haven't sorted this.

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Absolutely have to agree with you on this one, in fact why isn't there an ISO standard for steering column controls.

They don't move the pedals around for fashion, why should the other driver controls be any different.

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I know someone with a car that has the accelerator in the middle :eek:

He says you drive it muttering under your breath,
the brake is on the right, the brake is on the right, the brake is on the right, the brake is on the right

I learnt to drive on three cars - Throttle on the right (Swift), Throttle in the middle (Reo), No foot throttle, use the hand one, (Ford). I don't remember it as a problem, but then there was little traffic in the paddock.

John

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Originally Posted by TonyC

I know someone with a car that has the accelerator in the middle :eek:

He says you drive it muttering under your breath,
the brake is on the right, the brake is on the right, the brake is on the right, the brake is on the right

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

I learnt to drive on three cars - Throttle on the right (Swift), Throttle in the middle (Reo), No foot throttle, use the hand one, (Ford). I don't remember it as a problem, but then there was little traffic in the paddock.

John

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There was an F1 driver back in the fifties (it may have been earlier, can't recall who and when offhand) who had the mechanics move his brake and accelerator pedals around so his team mate couldn't commandeer his car during a race !

I remember the farm buying a tractor with a foot throttle as well as the hand throttle after years of having a hand throttle only.

Nobody used it much as it was poorly located and your foot would bounce on it causing the engine to jerk.
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Was it the A model Ford with three pedals on the floor that changed gears along with the handbrake selecting a gear as well?

I never will drive a A model, I would be frightened to take the end out of the shed.

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Originally Posted by wrinklearthur

Was it the A model Ford with three pedals on the floor that changed gears along with the handbrake selecting a gear as well?

I never will drive a A model, I would be frightened to take the end out of the shed.

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No, you are thinking of the Model T. The Model A had a conventional three speed crash box with normal three pedals (accelerator on right I think).

Model T had three pedal - left was the high - neutral - low, centre reverse (needs the left pedal half way down in neutral), and right the transmission service brake. The hand brake when moved halfway back put the left hand pedal halfway down, i.e. neutral.

High gear was selected by a 23 plate oil bath clutch, low and reverse by contracting oil bath brakes engaging planetary gears, same for the service brake. The flywheel housing doubled as the sump, with the flywheel magneto doubling as a sort of oil pump that fed oil to front of the engine, to lubricate the timing gears and then run back along the crankcase pan filling the troughs for the big ends on the way.

Camshaft and generator (post 1917) were driven by spiral gears, with the ignition timer on the front of the camshaft.

John

Thanks John

With all that going on to change gear with the model T, it's no wonder that Henry didn't fit indicators as well. :p