maxi drive lockers

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Originally Posted by PAT303

MLD,do you drive around Picton or Wedderburn?,that was a common place for us to go as it's all sandstone steps that really worked the suspension,same as Porters Road at Dural or Heart break ridge at Bowral,you tube them and see what you find,I'm saying this because clearance is an issue with the sals,watch the video's because I was the only one with a sals diff and I was the only one who constantly got hung up because of it,it's pretty ordinary for a then new Defender to get stuck when a '66 2a walked through,I went to 255/85's to match a rover on 7.50x16's. Pat

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Pat, there is no arguing with you that clearance with the sals is an issue. I often find myself caught up where the P38 rear diff drivers don't have problems. All i was trying to convey was that I'm prepared to give up clearance for peace of mind that the sals will get me home even if it has lost teeth material and is worse for wear.

There are options with the sals to regain some clearance, which i'm yet to employ. Driving a 130 i also suffer ramp over limitations on technical rock crawling.

I don't care as much about getting caught on a rock challenge. Reverse out and pick another line or ask the fairies to pack a rock or 2. I do lament the sals in mud bogs when you get caught in stinky water. As such I'd forge a new track to avoid a mud hole.

If the primary purpose of your truck is touring then a sals is great for your needs. It's strong and save for those rare failures from fatigue they seem to hold up to the punishment of outback touring. If you are building a truck to primarily be a weekend warrior then the clearance is an issue but the standard rover and P38 diff will require love and attention to make it as reliable as the sals. For the later type of truck the owner is not going to be satisfied with a bog stock standard truck so new diff centres, pegging etc are on the cards. Keeping in mind that most people with newer trucks (that have TC) will be adverse to panel damage (unless you are stupid like me and push it too far).

I have ventured from the topic of the OP. The OP said he was after a 200 Tdi or Isuzu. There is a real possibility he will fall into the weekend warrior category and the truck becomes a work in progress. Notwithstanding that, i did pick the sals over the P38 and if required to make that choice again, i'd repeat it, clearance deficits and all.

MLD

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Originally Posted by MLD

Pat, there is no arguing with you that clearance with the sals is an issue. I often find myself caught up where the P38 rear diff drivers don't have problems. All i was trying to convey was that I'm prepared to give up clearance for peace of mind that the sals will get me home even if it has lost teeth material and is worse for wear.

There are options with the sals to regain some clearance, which i'm yet to employ. Driving a 130 i also suffer ramp over limitations on technical rock crawling.

I don't care as much about getting caught on a rock challenge. Reverse out and pick another line or ask the fairies to pack a rock or 2. I do lament the sals in mud bogs when you get caught in stinky water. As such I'd forge a new track to avoid a mud hole.

If the primary purpose of your truck is touring then a sals is great for your needs. It's strong and save for those rare failures from fatigue they seem to hold up to the punishment of outback touring. If you are building a truck to primarily be a weekend warrior then the clearance is an issue but the standard rover and P38 diff will require love and attention to make it as reliable as the sals. For the later type of truck the owner is not going to be satisfied with a bog stock standard truck so new diff centres, pegging etc are on the cards. Keeping in mind that most people with newer trucks (that have TC) will be adverse to panel damage (unless you are stupid like me and push it too far).

I have ventured from the topic of the OP. The OP said he was after a 200 Tdi or Isuzu. There is a real possibility he will fall into the weekend warrior category and the truck becomes a work in progress. Notwithstanding that, i did pick the sals over the P38 and if required to make that choice again, i'd repeat it, clearance deficits and all.

MLD

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yeah, the truck is going to be the weekend warrior, as well as my everyday driver.. haha, I have no problem giving a rover diff a little more love and attention(money), because with the majority of 4x4ing we do, diff clearance is a major factor. now for another question.. I was looking at Ashcroft diff locks until a few people told me their quality is shocking, and too fix the problems with them you have to send them back to the uk which costs a fortune. not sure if this is true or not?

i think the main point is that, eather a 200 tdi or isuzu will come std with a Sals dif. so why swap it out

better than that it will come with the wide stubs as well

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Originally Posted by discoRRc

yeah, the truck is going to be the weekend warrior, as well as my everyday driver.. haha, I have no problem giving a rover diff a little more love and attention(money), because with the majority of 4x4ing we do, diff clearance is a major factor. now for another question.. I was looking at Ashcroft diff locks until a few people told me their quality is shocking, and too fix the problems with them you have to send them back to the uk which costs a fortune. not sure if this is true or not?

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AFAIK Ashcrofts have never had a locker failure anywhere in the world.
Not sure who has been getting in your ear....

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Originally Posted by rick130

AFAIK Ashcrofts have never had a locker failure anywhere in the world.
Not sure who has been getting in your ear....

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http://www.aulro.com/afvb/1978789-post33.html

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http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-...ml#post1978789

Mike.

I have Ashcroft's front and rear lockers with HD C&W's (front pegged) (Rear HDP38 hypoid) also their half shafts/drive flanges/CV's

Some bits been in for 3 years, others about 12 months.

Never an issue small or large.

I also know of several others with multiple Ashcroft bits and again never a problem.

For me there is no question about Ashcroft's quality.

if your getting truetracs be advised that the front and rear units are different, you cant swap front for rear.(from the link)

When I ordered my Tru Trac I didn't mention front or rear and as was for the front of a 9" possibly not available anyway There is a fairly simple procedure to swap the gears around to suit.I couldn't see a reason why the rear wouldn't work in the front anyway .Have yet to find in about 4000k any adverse effect running as supplied:o No doubt I am going to be informed otherwise:D

So thanks in advance R:D

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Originally Posted by 90@

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/1978789-post33.html

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http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-...ml#post1978789

Mike.

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That post is a pile of unsubstantiated BS.

Yep, I know and agree.....
DiscoRRC seems to think that Ashcroft are not a very good product, Rick130 said "not sure who's getting in your ear" about them....
As far as I know, (and I may be mistaken) the post that I referenced to was written by DiscoRRC's father (?) Steve223, who has been advised by an US based seller (who as twr7cx pointed out) doesn't sell Ashcroft products, that the Ashcroft lockers/ATB's are no good.

So it seems that DiscoRRC (not having a go at him) has heard through his father (?) that Ashcroft stuff is no good?

There is no harm in asking a question though as to whether a product is any good, however still perpetuating the myth that they are no good and non rebuild able products does a good company and products harm.

Mike.

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Originally Posted by 90@

Yep, I know and agree.....
DiscoRRC seems to think that Ashcroft are not a very good product, Rick130 said "not sure who's getting in your ear" about them....
As far as I know, (and I may be mistaken) the post that I referenced to was written by DiscoRRC's father (?) Steve223, who has been advised by an US based seller (who as twr7cx pointed out) doesn't sell Ashcroft products, that the Ashcroft lockers/ATB's are no good.

So it seems that DiscoRRC (not having a go at him) has heard through his father (?) that Ashcroft stuff is no good?

There is no harm in asking a question though as to whether a product is any good, however still perpetuating the myth that they are no good and non rebuild able products does a good company and products harm.

Mike.

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steve223 isn't my farther, and I actually haven't heard anything from him about Ashcroft quality. I don't seem to think Ashcroft is a bad product, I was looking to find what peoples experiences with them are, because I've heard some people say its absolute rubbish, but I've also heard people who swear by them..