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A spare wheel is 30-40kg. Two Jerries are 50kg, a hi lift jack (I'm assuming) is 15kg, and swags at approx 10kg each. Let's ignore the shovel and chairs for now and you're still up for over 115kg plus the weight of the rack. To me, that's a heap of weight. Low weight on the roof would be 30kg. I personally wouldn't trust a deefers roof with over about 50kg.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
Concerning the Rhino mesh platforms, I had one on my previous vehicle, after a few years it started to rust where the mesh strands crossed, and drop rust marks onto the roof.
It's fair to say I did abuse it, as it lived on the car which was parked outside, but something to consider as an alloy platform may be cheaper in the long run if it avoids replacement costs
Simon
i too had a pioneer 2.2m rack on a 110 (4 legs). it was the length of the flat section of roof. I was able to fit a RTT, a shovel east/west in front of the RTT and a 33" mud tyre up there with room to spare. You will be surprised how much a 2.2m rack will hold.
I agree with the weight comments, the RTT and tyre was near on 85kg, add the platform and legs and the weight was about 110 to 115kg. It played havoc with the handling of the 110.
for what it's worth the aluminium pioneer rack looks new even after 18 months of exposure to the elements. I only mention that because the powder coating on some racks go dull with UV exposure.
MLD
If you are going to get a rack IMO I would always go for the 2.8m one this allows you extra space if required.
Both the Hannibal and Patriot rack leg supports spread the load more as they run longer in the gutter.
The 3.5m rack I have would normal take, 1x 65kg 1.6m Hannibal Tent, 14kg Hannibal 2.4m Awning, 3x wolf box, ( maybe 20/25 kg in total ) and 2 z 25ltr jerry cans mounted mid way, never had any problems, no gutter cracks either.
I would do the same with the 110 2.8 load wise.
What's a good rack for a dual cab 130
Looking for a flat base one and only as long as the cab
Does Hannibal make one?
Thanks all for the input! Certainly lots for me to think about...
Yes I know more space on the roof inevitably leads to more weight up there, but I'm up against:
- carrying long but light stuff (wood, pipes etc)
- touring with a family
- possibly going down the RTT path (as a result of the previous point!)
Seeing as you're in Perth, it might be worth getting a price for the Frontrunner "Wind-cheetah" aluminium one from Opposite Lock. They have a number of lengths and there will be one specific for the 130 dual cab.Quote:
Originally Posted by Landy86
The Patriot and Hannibal are good racks, but very expensive compared to the Wind-cheetah which is really equally as good. The Wind-cheetah is available in low profile as well which makes daily use of the car easier (carparks etc).
Cheers,
Lou
Yes, you could be right.
I was thinking the spare would be about 30kg, the 2 x 20 litre fuel drums about 40kg (and would be emptied ASAP) and I'm not sure about the weight of the jack. The shovel and the swags wouldn't be much.
On our Simpson trip the D1 had more than that on the roof without any problems. I also spread the weight very evenly over the whole roof.
I have five Rhino bars I can use on the Defender so can spread the weight very effectively. The Rhino flat racks seem to be pretty light, but I haven't weighed them.
I must get the manual out and look up the recommended maximum roof weight for the Defender.
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Originally Posted by gusthedog
If memory serves the Defender roof max is 150kg, that's for the 110, not sure if the others are different. I have paint cracks in the gutter from well under 100kg so not sure I'm game to load up to the max
Simon,
Paint crack inside the gutter is absolutely normal and par for the course. There is a mastic/ rubbery type lining that gets painted in there and it will alway crack the paint with no detriment to the roof or gutter itself.
The car will in fact become un-driveable long before you are able to actually damage the roof gutters with overloading. The 150kg load limit is for centre of gravity purposes and the associate road holding deterioration with offsetting the centre of mass. The rating/ warning is not a structural limit.
In Zambia I saw a Defender that rolled (nice and gently I must admit) with the roof rack quite bent, but the roof, roof gutters and windscreen frame all remaining dead straight.
Cheers,
Lou