Thread: 2016 'Defender'

...quick scan of carsales, only 32 x 2014/15 defenders in the country, mostly 90's and mostly around $55,000. Looks like a shortage of 110's to me and 90 prices are up there. Demand has never been higher I'd say.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Its interesting in the 'bent utes' report in the latest 4 x 4 Australia there are two pictures of the latest Landcruiser dual cab v8 utes with bent chassis and one of the experts interviewed says he has seen a number of them bent. No mention of any bent Defender.

So Defender 130 chassis cracking is not an issue then?

Just because a mag doesn't report it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The problems with the 130 are well reported and IMHO directly related to the nature of the single point loading of coil springs and the cantilever effect on the rear body mounts vs the tripple point loading of leaf springs on most of the other brand offerings.

I must say however the excessive overhang of many traybacks on the Japanese dualcab offerings would be a significant cause of rear chassis failures.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

So Defender 130 chassis cracking is not an issue then?

Just because a mag doesn't report it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The problems with the 130 are well reported and IMHO directly related to the nature of the single point loading of coil springs and the cantilever effect on the rear body mounts vs the tripple point loading of leaf springs on most of the other brand offerings.

I must say however the excessive overhang of many traybacks on the Japanese dualcab offerings would be a significant cause of rear chassis failures.

Not mentioned because its not a common thing to see a bent Defender, I assume. Certainly possible.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Not mentioned because its not a common thing to see a bent Defender, I assume. Certainly possible.

Not sure what is the definition of "common thing" but a quick search on this site reveals:

1. Cracked chassis defender 130 2010 puma
2. 130 Chassis Cracking issue any Prevention method ?
3. 130 chassis cracks
4. Chassis Cracking/Failures 130s
5. 130 chassis hairline fractures
6. Defender 130 chassis strength
7. defender chassis welding
8. http://www.aulro.com/~/157103-tray-mounts-2-print.html
9. 130 Crew Cab Defender

And that is only the first three pages of 10 pages of results.

So how is this side topic relating to 2016 Defender then?


I continue watching this thread for any news on subject (being 2016 Defender).


Regards,
Peter

Originally Posted by TwoUp

So how is this side topic relating to 2016 Defender then?


I continue watching this thread for any news on subject (being 2016 Defender).


Regards,
Peter

Hi Peter,

Me too! but clearly no one has the insider news. ...It's the vacuum created by the much anticipated 2016 Defender morphing into the speculative 2018 Defender, which may not ever exist, like everything else in the future... Get a 2014/15 Defender while you can I reckon! The 2018+ Defender will be a Hilux copy like every other new vehicle on the horizon. If you're waiting for a faurdinkum new Defender don't hold your breath, get a dusk cab ute which will break a chassis ...and if you get a 130 beef up the tray mounts, but the chassis will probably ok.
Apologies for the cynicism, but it is Friday night and my confidence in Land Rover to build a serious heavy duty working vehicle is dwindling.
Happy weekend!!
Cheers, MrLandy

...actually I just noticed you've already got a 98 110, a 2.2 130 and a puma 110!! Is that correct ? ...So you're set!
Cheers mate, doesn't get any better, other than a fully restored series 1!!

I guess the thing is if you like the current defender and don't want to see it change, you can have that as you can get one now from the last few years and with the spare parts back up keep it on the road for the foreseeable future. Given the enthusiast back ground of the defender I'd be surprised if the current crop of land rover parts vendors don't keep supporting us with parts for years to come.

Additionally I think there would be a market for licensed CKD style kit car (defender in a box) once the new one is released for low volume enthusiast at home builds for those that are really serious and want a new one but that's for another thread I guess.

As far as the 201X replacement goes, personally IF (that's a pretty big if) the speculation online turns out to be correct then I'm keen to give it serious consideration irrespective of what it looks like. 9 speed auto, low range transfer case (surmising this might be manual only), solid axles, lockers, various body configs, alloy architecture (light but hopefully robust), small capacity diesel (good on juice but hopefully peppy) then on paper it'll suit us just fine for what I would use it for.

To the OP, no, I'm not considering a current new one for what I want it for so yes, I'm waiting to see what comes out of the oven first.

Just want them to get on with it now, been long enough.