Thread: 2016 'Defender'

We know they've built a new engine plant for the Ingenuim series which starts at 2.0 litres and can be larger.
We know they have a super sophisticated robot manufacturing plant.
We know they have adopted the key word 'durable' to describe the new Defender.
We know they have the existing platforms which can be used under the new Defender.
We know there's talk of continuing to make the existing Defender in India.
We know they've said they want to knock off the Hilux with a range of vehicles.
That all sounds good to me.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

We know they've built a new engine plant for the Ingenuim series which starts at 2.0 litres and can be larger.
We know they have a super sophisticated robot manufacturing plant.
We know they have adopted the key word 'durable' to describe the new Defender.
We know they have the existing platforms which can be used under the new Defender.
We know there's talk of continuing to make the existing Defender in India.
We know they've said they want to knock off the Hilux with a range of vehicles.
That all sounds good to me.

Keen to know about the Hilux references

I would have that in a heartbeat.

Originally Posted by stewie110

Keen to know about the Hilux references

Indeed. ...intriguing, I would have thought most of us here would think Defender has already knocked the hilux off its perch as well as the landcruiser, but if what you're saying DiscoMick is that the 20XX Defender is aiming to knock off the hilux in more ways than one, ie: imitate like all the other dual cab light duty keep up with the joneses suburban family wagon utes attempting to do so, such as amarok, bt50, ranger, triton and navara, I would be very worried. Freelander, evoque and discovery already target the mainstream. Perhaps an evoque dual cab ute might fit the bill, but please, any reference to knocking off hilux is only meaningful if Defender doesn't capitulate to imitation. Maybe 2015 is actually the end of the serious HD work 4WD? There seems to be no news on s replacement for the antiquated Toyota 70 series either.

I've just been looking through Jock the Rock's inspiring creation in 'show us your deefers' - the 110 Defender Isuzu turbo hybrid. Looking like the way to go in future, always been my thinking for my battle scarred 98 ...super HD motor and gearbox, same fuel economy as new Defender. Hmm... If the new Defender is not equally robust it will be difficult to find an Isuzu diesel in the coming years I reckon, if not already.

It must be s tough gig for the LR engineers! No wonder it's been pushed back to 20XX! But I really hope the rhetoric about new Defender 'parts being interchangeable with hilux' which is all over the web is a misquote!

All pure speculation, except for maybe the Ingenium engines.
This is "The World's Best Kept Secret", and NO-ONE, really knows anything of any substance, apart from a few of the "Inner Sanctum", at JLR U.K., and I suppose the question could be asked, "Do They"?....But I'm being cyncal here, because I think they would!
Pickles.

Hey Pickles, yup all speculation based on tidbits of spurious information.

There's no news on the Land Cruiser replacement because there isn't going to be one.Toyota like Land Rover are retiring their old platforms because they can't meet todays standards without a major redesign,if your going that far you may as well start over,Land Rover with a ''new'' defender,Toyota with the Hilux. Pat

Originally Posted by MrLandy

Indeed. ...intriguing, I would have thought most of us here would think Defender has already knocked the hilux off its perch as well as the landcruiser, but if what you're saying DiscoMick is that the 20XX Defender is aiming to knock off the hilux in more ways than one, ie: imitate like all the other dual cab light duty keep up with the joneses suburban family wagon utes attempting to do so, such as amarok, bt50, ranger, triton and navara, I would be very worried. Freelander, evoque and discovery already target the mainstream. Perhaps an evoque dual cab ute might fit the bill, but please, any reference to knocking off hilux is only meaningful if Defender doesn't capitulate to imitation. Maybe 2015 is actually the end of the serious HD work 4WD? There seems to be no news on s replacement for the antiquated Toyota 70 series either.

I've just been looking through Jock the Rock's inspiring creation in 'show us your deefers' - the 110 Defender Isuzu turbo hybrid. Looking like the way to go in future, always been my thinking for my battle scarred 98 ...super HD motor and gearbox, same fuel economy as new Defender. Hmm... If the new Defender is not equally robust it will be difficult to find an Isuzu diesel in the coming years I reckon, if not already.

It must be s tough gig for the LR engineers! No wonder it's been pushed back to 20XX! But I really hope the rhetoric about new Defender 'parts being interchangeable with hilux' which is all over the web is a misquote!

I find it funny how people need super duper defenders to travel in the outback on tracks cut through virgin bush by the likes of Len Beadell in standard series ones. Pat