2016 'Defender'

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Originally Posted by PAT303

They would have started ages ago,people have the wrong idea about manufacturing,it doesn't happen overnight,it would supprise people just how much of a head start it takes for a vehicle,even just a face lift for one in current production to go from concept to the dealer for court,the range of colours for example takes two years from idea to supply,thats just for paint,Land Rover would have been working on the D3 design in 2000 even though the D2 was released barely 12 months before. Pat

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But worth pointing out that for the first Landrover, from decision to proceed with a design to delivery of the first production vehicle, was from September 4th 1947 to July 19th 1948. And that was done without the benefit of any computer aided design. Admittedly it was a far simpler vehicle, but the facilities were nothing like what is available today either. In addition, it was like nothing Rover had ever built before, and using a completely new engine (designed in house, but several years earlier) to boot, even if it did use existing diffs and gear boxes.

Manufacturers, especially car manufacturers, are today pulling all stops to try and reduce the lead time for designs, taking advantage of the ability today to do all the design on a computer, and even 3D print prototype parts, and with Landrover planning to make the Defender replacement a completely new design in a completely new factory, this may be something they could pull off. Certainly thye will have been thinking about the design, and even preparing 'prototypes', including the DC-100, but I would not be surprised if they had only recently started a new design (hence the receding timeline).

John

They would already have the drive line completed now,I wouldn't be supprised if they have both a ladder frame chassis and monocoque in test,my moneys on a plain white defender,a second in a FL2.They have two years left,thats bugger all time considering the amount of work that has to be done. Pat

I reckon they're a LONG way down the track, in fact I reckon it's pretty much the way it is now, as what it will eventually be, & as I believe, has been disclosed to the "Inner Sanctum".
Pickles.

I wonder if Land Rover have considered that a lot of people buy Toyo's for the towing power for caravans, will the new 2.0 litre ingenium motor pull a large caravan easy.

A lot of people buy V8 diesels for power only to find if they use that power consumption goes through the roof,in the end they drive very exxy vehicles that do the same speed everyone else does. Pat

If you can imagine how exciting it would be to pull a caravan at highway overtaking speeds with a Land Cruiser. Then you would probably be happy with the Two Litre.

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Originally Posted by PAT303

A lot of people buy V8 diesels for power only to find if they use that power consumption goes through the roof,in the end they drive very exxy vehicles that do the same speed everyone else does. Pat

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Gearing is more important than engine size.

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Its bizarre in this day and age that you can't buy a tojo landcruiser with anything but a V8! Defender has been leading the way for a long time with small turbo diesels and great gearing in full size 4WD's. Would be nice to have a little more torque in second high to skip what is a very short first at times, but i can live with it when the alternative is furl consumption is 18-20 litres/100km! And having low range that is best in the business

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Gearing is more important than engine size.

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Yes Disco, you have a point there. I can't believe how well the little 2.2 gets along, however, when I want to overtake a B Double,....that, does on occasions, require a bit of "planning, at which time the power of our C63 would be quite handy!
Pickles.

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Originally Posted by Pickles2

Yes Disco, you have a point there. I can't believe how well the little 2.2 gets along, however, when I want to overtake a B Double,....that, does on occasions, require a bit of "planning, at which time the power of our C63 would be quite handy!
Pickles.

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Drop back to fifth, push the revs up towards 3000 and you should get along quite nicely.