2016 'Defender'

Yawn 💤😇

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

Yawn 💤😇

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Now you are just being a troll.

Andrew86 has made some interesting points and all you can say is, yawn?

Ok....

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Originally Posted by Andrew86

What? No. It's just a sign of their capacity to do great things. What year was the last E-Type made? All new Jaguars look like homogenous sports saloons. Could be a ford really.



It sounds like you've got a chip on your shoulder to me. Every brand has its 'look' that they replicate across the range to make sure people know what they're looking at. Yawn

There's no need to do that to the same degree with the Defender though. Its shape is a brand in itself that's been established over 65+ years. As I said, they're not going to throw that away for the sake of homogeneity. I think it will be a travesty.

The latest VW Beetle doesn't look anything like a Golf, and the next Defender will look nothing like a Discovery. Relax :) Totally relaxed bro.

...the new beetle is a perfect case in point. It does look like a cartoon parody of the original. It's too big and it even comes with a dicky plastic flower on the dashboard! I rest my case.
Cheers.

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Carpet is fine, my carpets (and my work vehicles) frequently get grease, oil, mud, cow ****, etc tracked into them, as well as getting soaking wet, and 5 minutes with some auto carpet cleaner, a brush, and a vacuum cleaner and it's good as new.
Of course, I accept that I'm a plastic fantastic blinged up weekend warrior for cleaning my car as part of its up keep, as opposed to those true blue bearded Africa exploring adventure types who Rove without fear of ever touching a cleaning product......:angel:



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Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

Of course, I accept that I'm a plastic fantastic blinged up weekend warrior for cleaning my car as part of its up keep, as opposed to those true blue bearded Africa exploring adventure types who Rove without fear of ever touching a cleaning product......:angel: Sent from my HTC One using AULRO mobile app

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I was in the anti-clean clan. Until the paint started peeling off my 110.

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

All new Jaguars look like homogenous sports saloons. Could be a ford really.

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Well our eyes clearly see different things.

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Yawn

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Nice.

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I think it will be a travesty.

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And I think it won't be, so we'll just have to wait and see. I see plenty of evidence to warrant adopting a more positive outlook. I'm sure you'll hate it either way, and the latte sipping scourge that'll buy it! :p

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...the new beetle is a perfect case in point. It does look like a cartoon parody of the original. It's too big and it even comes with a dicky plastic flower on the dashboard!

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It hasn't come with a flower for over 10 years...

My point was that VW has kept the Beetle as its own entity and deliberately chose not make it look like the rest of their fleet. The Beetle shape is instantly recognisable and it makes sense to capitalise on that.

I see no reason why LR would treat the Defender any differently. 65 years of heritage is something that no amount of advertising could ever replicate. They aren't going to bin all that and copy-paste a Discoevoquesport over it.

Cool guys, lets agree to disagree 😎
...By the way, I wash my Landy, i have marine carpet in the back, and I have a beard! None of which has anything to do with the design debate.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by rar110

I was in the anti-clean clan. Until the paint started peeling off my 110.

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I thought he was talking about the drivers.

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Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

Carpet is fine, my carpets (and my work vehicles) frequently get grease, oil, mud, cow ****, etc tracked into them, as well as getting soaking wet, and 5 minutes with some auto carpet cleaner, a brush, and a vacuum cleaner and it's good as new.
Of course, I accept that I'm a plastic fantastic blinged up weekend warrior for cleaning my car as part of its up keep, as opposed to those true blue bearded Africa exploring adventure types who Rove without fear of ever touching a cleaning product......:angel:



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I wasn't calling you names at all.... If/when I buy another 4x4 then I would just like the option of not having carpet. I don't have carpet in the house either if that makes any difference. Don't get me wrong if I was buying a family car/saloon etc then I would be looking for some bells and whistles but in my 4x4 I want simple, easy, effective.

Would would really be bling is if they could come up with some paint job that never got dirty in the first place! :D

I guess when it boils down though, it really doesn't matter what we want because LR is just going to build what they THINK we want. Or maybe more accurately what they THINK English or European countries want?

I had a shower today. Biddy hasn't had a wash since Expo. (She Didn't win a prize. :mad:)