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Thread: 2016 'Defender'

  1. #91
    MrLandy Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by YOLO110 View Post
    I am pretty certain the 'new' Defender will be something pretty special!

    JLR are a highly successful company with a long and rich heritage, backed fully with deep pockets, people and R and D. I don't believe they will let us down with a below par replacement!

    Pretty exciting really... but very glad I now have an 'original'!!!

    :>)
    ....Hope you're right YOLO110, but I'm with you...very glad I have an 'original'!!!

    Lots of interesting posts running on this... Intriguing... surely someone out there will break some news on 'the new icon' soon!

    Respect to JLR for secrecy during roll out of Heritage models too! It's brilliant.

  2. #92
    Tombie Guest
    But you don't have an 'original'
    The public was up in arms when they changed from series to Defender, from leaf to coil, to lights in the guards not inboard.

    Everything must evolve. Just as our uses, needs and wants evolve.

    This new L662 will be a very capable machine - where capable is breadth of capability, not one particular aspect of a vehicles use.

    Having said that - we enjoy our 90

  3. #93
    MrLandy Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    But you don't have an 'original'
    The public was up in arms when they changed from series to Defender, from leaf to coil, to lights in the guards not inboard.

    Everything must evolve. Just as our uses, needs and wants evolve.

    This new L662 will be a very capable machine - where capable is breadth of capability, not one particular aspect of a vehicles use.

    Having said that - we enjoy our 90
    Ha ha! true Tombie 😊, we're actually on the look out for a series Landy.. .needless to say would love one of each!!

  4. #94
    MrLandy Guest
    If Pat's right:
    See: Any news of the new Defender?
    And new Defender has been pushed out to 2018, it would be why no news has come out. ...But all the press til now has said they've signed off on the new design. Maybe they've been listening and gone back to the drawing board?

  5. #95
    Tombie Guest
    This thread is like watching commercial TV news...

    No facts, no data, no info...

    Yet it goes on and on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    This thread is like watching commercial TV news...

    No facts, no data, no info...

    Yet it goes on and on
    And yet we keep watching...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    This thread is like watching commercial TV news...

    No facts, no data, no info...

    Yet it goes on and on
    I could tell you,but then I'd have to kill you . Pat

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    So it looks like the thread can be relabeled 2018 Defender...

    Still mostly drip feeds, but Land Rover USA released a press statement that the Defender will return to US shores in 2019, a year after release in the UK.

    Forget the pictures of the DC100 in the article, but if those specifications are anywhere near accurate it sounds to be all good news! Live axles and SDV6 engines...

    Land Rover Defender to Make US Return in 2019 ? AutoGuide.com News

    Cheers,

    Lou

  9. #99
    MrLandy Guest

    2018 'Defender'? Hmm...

    Well if it's going to be 2018, they've either gone back to the drawing board to get it right, or stuff it up completely. ....Or this journo is just making stuff up.

    "Arriving in time for the Defender's 70th anniversary in 2018, the British automaker will recreate its legendary SUV for the first time since 1948."
    ...IT'S BEEN RECREATED MANY TIMES SINCE 1948 ... AND DEFENDER IS NOT AN SUV, but it sure sounds like it's going to be!...BE VERY WORRIED...

    "the Land Rover Defender range will become a go-anywhere luxury model with tough styling" ...ISN'T THAT WHAT DISCO AND RANGE ROVER ARE ALREADY!

    " that will be offered in at least five body types" IT ALREADY IS

    "The company is also supposedly moving its most off-road focused model to common wheel and tire sizes to make finding replacement products simpler worldwide." ...I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT 16inch rims were pretty common already. Talk about saying nothing!!

    Live axles are good news, but in a world that still thinks horse and cart leaf springs are a good idea, it's not all that revelatory.

    I don't have any faith in this journo. ...although 2018 does seem likely given there really is no credible info out there. ...I'd definitely be grabbing a late model DEFENDER right now if I hadn't already!

  10. #100
    stewie110 Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by MrLandy View Post
    Hey summit, yes that is a dilemma...the G wagon option sounds interesting...is a gov ute version less pricey than the 100K+ of standard model? Read an article online (sorry don't have link) about G wagons not being up to handling the Canning Stock Route! Hmm ...regardless, I'd be pretty tempted if I were you to get a new 130 now, it will hold its value, then you've got one in case the new version is not the real world commercial version we're hoping for...
    I have a mate who has a grey market imported 2007/8 G320 G wagon. He's done all of the famous "car killer" tracks around Australia including the Canning. The only variation from stock that he has made is fitting the "professional spec" suspension parts. From what he tells me they are the same SKU as the military models have internationally (he's not sure if the Australian versions have the same part).

    Going on tracks with him the big differences are
    * seems much smaller inside (he seems to pack similar volumes of gear and have less space free for kids etc)
    * much much quieter on the road
    * has similar axle articulation but with the lockers makes it much more capable factory spec to factory spec.
    * much more power
    * better engine braking on steep hills in low range (more control i suspect from the bigger capacity engine).

    The defender on the other hand (I currently have a 2001 td5) has
    * more after market accessories and cheaper parts.
    * more space
    * less tosser factor (he gets many people slagging him off)
    * looks better (imho)

    One other point I forgot to mention in my previous (pre-edit) post was that I asked the Local Mercedes commercial dealership if they had any plans on having the professional series imported to Australia (the true direct comparison to the defender) and they went back to head office, came back to me and said not at this time... However they have said they would.. then back tracked several times since the army decided to use them.

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