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Yeah anything over 100km/hr and the Puma drinks like a fish. Uses 12-13l per 100km. At 110km/hr 14-15 depending on the wind. And I drive him! ...20,000km on the clock now, hoping for improvement. ...Puma still uses more than my 300tdi! How does that work with a more 'advanced' albeit smaller engine'? Quieter, a bit more power, but thirstier! So much for lower emissions.
over 100km/hr? rarely been there , except the occasional passing maneuver.:D a rare pleasure in a defender, to pass another moving vehicle.
For the first few years i wondered why my 300 tdi 110 got such good fuel economy, then I found out he speedo was reading 5 km/h r high . ( checked by GPS with friends car beside over 20 kms.) Used to get 10 l/100 kms , I once drove 1100 kms between fuel stops, including a 3 days Victorian high country camping trip on my 120 liter tanks.
The engines are efficient, but those brutally handsome looks don't come without a price. As a few guys said, over 100 km/hr you to pay. IMV the 300tdi defender never seems as happy travelling as it does when on a secondary road, sealed or gravel at 90 kms/hr, it feels completely in its element. Comfortable, confident ,quiet, economical. :cool:
My 300tdi loves doing 110km/hr (115 on speedo) still gets 10/11L per 100km but noisy, pretty loose and needs work after a long hard life in the bush up north. 2.2 puma uses 14L at 110km/hr. Does 110kmh easily, as a new vehicle should. 89-90kmh on dirt is sweet too, although 100 is sweeter on the road in 6th gear , but still uses 12L/100k.
The Charles Bronson of Motor vehicles ?Quote:
Originally Posted by simmo
So other makes are".......
My 2.5L 300tdi always had more pickup than a Tojo troopy 4.2L 6 I drove for work and I reckon the puma 2.2 has better pickup than a V8 troopy too. So in that comparison the fuel economy is still way out in front.
Love your first line,.....in terms of which, I find that overtaking a B Double does require a bit of "planning"!Quote:
Originally Posted by simmo
Pickles.
Driving Brisbane-Sydney over the last two days my 2.4 averaged 9.9 l/100kms over 850 kms beween fills of the 110 litre tank, so that's pretty good considering some of that was at 110 km/h. Better than my BIL's 80 series which is using 16-17 l/100kms.
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Last Christmas we went camping on Fraser island the daughters and their spouses, I hired a a new Toyota 76 series V8 diesel station wagon for them, (same shape as a troopy) .
Fantastic car to drive, so much torque, good AC, etc. We were traveling together so i filled up when they did etc. I was surprised to that the fuel consumption was 40% more than my defender. I was expecting maybe 10% because of the V8 right foot factor. Both cars are similar size, similar weight (cruiser is about 300 kg heavier) But it has a CRD engine so i was expecting better.
My 2009 2.4, as all defenders, is not great on fuel if driven at highway speeds. The aerodynamics are 60 plus years old and at that time they were not expected nor were they really able to exceed 60mph.
Keeping up with traffic and without being the slowest car on the road my car will return 12ish l/100km. If driven at 110kmh or so it will use 14's.
Towing a 1.5 tonne trailer at 100 with the odd overtaking of a road train thrown in will yield 15's.
All cars are different and your mileage may vary but in any case they are much better than some other makes on the road.
Interesting that I have a mate with a 6.2l chev efi v8 in a defender and driven at the same speeds as I go it will use no more fuel than I do.
Cheers
Likewise 2013, 90. 44k km. 10.2lt per 100km.
As I started on a lease I have ever single drop of fuel and each odo/trip recorded for each refuel stop. (yes I feel a bit weird about that obsessive compulsive activity).
A puff is normal.....you should go for a good long drive every so often with the revs up a bit to clear out the soot.;)