Child Restraints in 110 Puma

Just a couple of extracts from WA DOT:
[ame]http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/licensing/LBU_VS_IB_118.pdf[/ame]


Obviously some of these fitting stations could approve your own work, maybe if you chat to them about your requirements they may approve what you do providing it meets their standards

As mentioned earlier there is a place in Sydney that modifies the standard seats, adds a plate and child restraint mount, all engineered and legal. One of the guys i work with had it down to is 110 Puma, it looked factory.

Unfortunately, i cant remember the name of the place, all i know is it is right near a LR dealership down there.

That being said i made my own in the 130 with advice from a local engineer, quite simple and way stronger then most cars would have.

Was it this place?

Additional Anchor Points | As Snug As A Bug

Scroll down and there is a Defender.

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Originally Posted by jc109

G'day all,

Sorry, as I know this general topic has almost been done to death, but I can't seem to find anything specifically addressing this.

I want to put my child's seat in my (five seater) 110 Puma, and I'm obviously interested in doing so safely so am investigating the usual options such as CRABs, etc., but I can't help thinking that this is all over the top.

What I'd love to do is fabricate something (steel strap?) to fit to the rear of the Milford cargo barrier at approximately the same height as the seats, and to then fit the supplied anchor point to that. Given the loads that the cargo barrier is meant to take, is there any reason why that would not be a perfectly sound solution?

Cheers,

James

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Ive done this in my 110. It wasn't engineered but I am an engineering student if that helps ha ha

So i got some 8mm flat bar (mild steel) and had it cut to length and welded across the length of the cage i had holes tapped in it for the mounts. If you look at those bars they offer two mounting points only the cage offers 4-6 points of contact depending on your cage so its a no brainer really.

legally it should be engineer certified, mine wasnt. I had a mobile child seat installer come and help me install them, he never said a word about it.

The hardest part of the whole operation is getting the seats in its a 2 man job and its very very tight!

Be sure and adjust the seat straps and mock the whole thing up for height i just eyeballed mine using my patent pending eye-crometers and ended up with 2 pieces of flat bar welded to my frame... its super strong now ;)

( truth be told i put the seats in the wrong order - who listens when the wife speaks anyways? - so had to shuffle and hence redo the job )

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Originally Posted by alien

I asked this and got told the internal seat frame is not strong enough,
It would be a far cheaper option.


There was a thread of an internal plate being wield into the seat frame.
The trim was modified so the child anchor bolt could bolt into the plate.
A Sydney based firm from memory.


Ranga's(Mojo's link) looks like a CRAB bar with a barrier added, quite a neat idea.

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Obviously, I'm not understanding. If the anchor is bolted to the floor on the same bolt as the seat base, what difference does the strength of the seat frame make, as it's not carrying the weight, which is going to the bolt in the floor?


Another idea I have seen is to bolt a belt clip to the inside of the body above the rear door of the wagon and then run a long strap to it, but this has the disadvantage of meaning the strap has to run across the full load area.

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Originally Posted by cal415

there is a place in Sydney that modifies the standard seats, adds a plate and child restraint mount, all engineered and legal.

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I think you guys are referring to Comptune Engineering, in Narellan. I intend visiting these guys in the next few months to have them fit-up my 110. My little boy is almost 4 months old now, so we're going to start him into the off-road life soon :)

Thats the one, Comptune!

Can't you use child seats which are held by seatbelts?

Where I struggle with this is the child seats are largely held by seat belts and to my mind the anchor is just a supplementary tether point.

I know it isn't legal but I have just hooked mine back on the mount of the third row seats. However my second child is now in a booster seat so I can more easily get away with it.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Can't you use child seats which are held by seatbelts?

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There's only a select few booster seats that have no tether requirements, but the child will need to be using the seat belt to restrain themselves and the seat. All rear facing seats and forward facing seats with harness and the majority of booster seats all require the use of a tether strap