Thread: What are the minimum requirements for legal extra seats in the boot?

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

And because the ADRs are not retrospective, for a 1992, the previous version of this document applies.

Third Edition ADRs 3/01 seats and seat anchorages; 4/01 seatbelts and 5/02 seatbelt anchorages, apply to a 1992 Defender (MC category vehicle)

Originally Posted by frantic

No problem
The main hurdle is finding a set of seats, but if you advertise on here you might get lucky and a member has an old set in their garage like I did, I just paid the freight and he was happy to have the extra space.

That's a good deal!

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Third Edition ADRs 3/01 seats and seat anchorages; 4/01 seatbelts and 5/02 seatbelt anchorages, apply to a 1992 Defender (MC category vehicle)

Lotza

Interestingly, in your first link:
"3.2.0.1. Side-facing ?Seats? need not comply with the requirements of this Rule."

Which seems to apply to the whole document.

If you can get it done without engineering, arguing they were standard available on that model it may save you some grief.

I've had 2x2 side benches put in my 2013 110. All signed off BUT to have it rated for adults converts the 110 to a passenger vehicle so you have to install child seat restraint points servicing existing row 2, the only place for these were via a fabricated bar above the door (the engineer would not sign off restraints built into the seats themselves).

Alternatively you can stay as a commercial vehicle but be rated either for 2 adults or 4 children.

The seats and lap belts were from Exmoor Trim (I was in the UK with spare luggage capacity). Having the Euro stamp on them helped with sign off

NB I was told no cargo barrier allowed, no wheel carrier with externally operated mechanism as passengers must have ability to escape.....

You will require engineering for the seat belt anchorages if not already there.

had to get our old commodore wagon done when last kid came along.
went to a seat place in Carins.
cost 1300 drive in drive out blue plate etc

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I have a crab bar that is about 5-6 inches behind and about 1 in below the back seat that has 3 bolt points. It's bolted into the frame of the ute just below the window, concealed by the plastic in most wagons.
Mick, I didn't require eng report, as used original belts, and better fitting points. It may have changed in the last 4 years or just different in vic?
Simon in relation to Pumas there was a place out near Camden lr dealer that fits approved bolts inside the seat frame back just like most factory wagons, comptune I think. I've seen a couple and if I had a puma they would get my business as they look like the factory bolt points in a Prado or my wife's multivan. The thing that stops most conversions rating the seats for adults is gvm, with a defender this is not an issue. From memory it's 68kg per seat so you still have over 400kg (1050- 612)capacity after install whereas other wagons could exceed their gvm with bums on seats alone.

Originally Posted by frantic

Mick, I didn't require eng report, as used original belts, and better fitting points. It may have changed in the last 4 years or just different in vic?

Re read my post. I didn't mention the seat belts would require engineering. Seat belts you purchase in the stores conform to the Australian Standard and are therefore ADR compliant. No engineering necessary. You wouldn't believe how hard it is to get new seat belts in Australia that do not conform to the Australian Standard.

Seat belt anchorages.
https://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2006L02683
This is an ADR that applies to all states and territories within Australia. You have supplied very little information on the ones you have installed.