Thread: Video comparison: Defender 110 vs Jeep Rubicon (1/2 hr vid)

quoting ...

"a lovely vehicle to drive ... with all its faults !!!

.... but you can get used to anything ..." ! !

I'm glad my 110 steers and drives better than his

BFG ATs have their limitations in that terrain (at least I think they were ATs, not RTs)

but worth watching on the TV - thanks for posting David

What's your downhill technique with TDCi Defenders? The two fellas in the video were saying one cannot just let the defender idle in low first as the speed is too high - must put clutch in and use brakes on the steepest bits.

I tend to disagree and do what they said "inexperienced" instructors espouse - feet off and idle down in low first.

Other TDCi owners?

I enjoyed watching this. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by tact

What's your downhill technique with TDCi Defenders? The two fellas in the video were saying one cannot just let the defender idle in low first as the speed is too high - must put clutch in and use brakes on the steepest bits.

I tend to disagree and do what they said "inexperienced" instructors espouse - feet off and idle down in low first.

Other TDCi owners?

I'm with you on that one Neil, not sure where they came up with that being a good idea...

[QUOTE=spudboy;2451446]Interesting video by Andrew St. Pierre White.

I've been watching Andrew's stuff for a while. He has a good web site: The Best Overland Expedition Videos on the Web Thats well worth a look. He has a lot of videos on Youtube.

He is also planning on moving over to Australia.

Originally Posted by tact

What's your downhill technique with TDCi Defenders? The two fellas in the video were saying one cannot just let the defender idle in low first as the speed is too high - must put clutch in and use brakes on the steepest bits.

I tend to disagree and do what they said "inexperienced" instructors espouse - feet off and idle down in low first.

Other TDCi owners?

Lucky the didn't test a Tdi or TD5 Deefer then, low/low is too high IMO and you do have to ride the brakes, unless you have an Underdrive or Maxi Low Range gears. (and even with the Maxi gears I have low/low is only equivalent to the TDci's gearing)

Giggling at all his points about the Defender, and how much all of it makes no sense but you love anyway.

I have a TD5, depending on the incline I will make a call, but unless you are only in your seat by virtue of the seatbelt then compression braking in first low in a TD5 is fine. On that hill, I definitely would have done first low with minimal braking to drop the fronts of the ledge, then a dap for the rears.

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Originally Posted by rick130

Lucky the didn't test a Tdi or TD5 Deefer then, low/low is too high IMO and you do have to ride the brakes, unless you have an Underdrive or Maxi Low Range gears. (and even with the Maxi gears I have low/low is only equivalent to the TDci's gearing)

Haven't experienced TDi or TD5. But the low 1st in TDCi, I reckon, is low enough for the steepest downhills. If really needed at steps etc can still dab brakes to reduce speed a bit more.

In fact the TDCi's have the "idle jack" feature (raises idle RPM in low 1st) which exists purely because LR deem wheel speed TOO slow for a safe downhill without it.