So do we know if the engine needs to have the factory oil in it for the first however many K's to assist break-in?
What service were you billed for (A or B )?
What's the service log book recommend for the first 10,000 or 15,000 Km?
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So do we know if the engine needs to have the factory oil in it for the first however many K's to assist break-in?
What service were you billed for (A or B )?
What's the service log book recommend for the first 10,000 or 15,000 Km?
Total waste of oil, and no way do I believe that your oil is till clear after 5000klm, Regards frank.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1nando
The oil still looks in good nic tbh but I reckon oil filter part was skipped...
This is my 20,000km service (first real service), I had a check for free at 6,000km but no oil change. I dont think there was any special oil for break in at least not that I am aware of. I did the service way early at 12,000km and the oil was about the colour it is now so I was shocked to see it still dirty. If the oil change really has been done (hard to believe) then 20,000km oil changes are way too long. The first service is 20,00km in the book.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger
Chris
Yep there you go... change the oil on a regular basis on any common rail turbo diesel and all will be good for a very very long time. While I do say to customers it's wrong for any repairer to state "if you dont do ur oil changes every 5000kms you will b in trouble" .... 10,000km oil change intervals are perfectly fine, anything more such as stating 20,000km service intervals is merely to the benefit of the manufacturer meeting environmental standards and is very much to the detriment of the turbo diesel owner.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1nando
Good to see an owner doing 5000km oil change though, and do ur fuel filter & air filter every 10,000km..... welcome to trouble free engine life...
Regards
Daz
IMHO and close to 30 years working as a mechanic I have to disagree with the "total waste of oil" .... the proof for the owner will be in 200K, 300K, 400K when its still running perfect...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank
I have numerous customers gained over a lifetime that have 300K, 400K plus on numerous engine that I've serviced every 10,000kms (oil, oil filter, fuel filter, air filter) these include..
200tdi, 300tdi, TD5, 2.7lt TDV6, 3.0lt V6 CRD (Jeep, Merc engines), 2.8lt CRD (Jeep).
Also rolling into other regular maintenance such as change the coolant every 2 years, I'll show you TD5s that have over 250K on the clock and the cylinder head has never been off.
My own Jeep Cherokee KJ 2.8lt CRD (VM turbo diesel) has 320,000kms on the clock, always done oil at 5000kms, It has its original turbo (known failure on that model) on it and still pulls hard enough to leave any D3 or RRS dead off from the lights, turbo diesel or petrol a like.
Regards
Daz
I had the oil changed at 18,500km on my 2013 2.2l Defender and now has 20,300km on it. Oil after the change was clear and has now started to blacken, although not heavily contaminated as yet.
My 2011 2.4 Ford Transit blackens the oil within 1000km of an oil change and has done so quickly since it was new. It now has 160,000km on it.
I dont have any Jaguar Land Rover data stating anything about break-in oils, even factory crate engine just state as being filled with oil meeting specifications. You will find they are filled on the assembly line with what is spec'd for service, being Castrol bluh bluh meeting the Ford spec.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger
I'd be surprised to find any manufacturer producing mass assembly line products using a break-in oil nowdays.
Regards
Daz
Any chance of a pic just curious?Quote:
Originally Posted by 4wheeler
Cheers
Chris
50+ years in diesel engine service and rebuilds from ride on mowers to container ship engines, but mostly long distance road transport and lately, since retirement light truck and 4WD vehicles.Quote:
Originally Posted by DazzaTD5
I have noticed and had personal experience with manufacturers using light weight synthetic oils to run in todays multi OHC engines and I have seen many engines that fail to "Bed in" and switched back to Mineral oils for the Bed in period, about 15K then change back to Synthetic.
Diesel engines require a detergent type oil to "clean up" the extra soot created by diesel ignition, I had some considerable trouble with Rimula M back in the early 80's, was noticing that the oil was staying "clean", most of the engines using this oil (under my care) required total rebuilds after 300,000 klms, where my Mack running Rimula X had no problems at 480,000 klms.
As far as I'm concerned clean oil in a diesel is a sign that the oil is not doing it's work, the engines with clean oil had a lot of sludge inside the engine when torn down, Regards Frank.