Defenders on "Car Sales."

Prices will continue to rise for pristine examples, unmodified, low km's. If no new model Defender prices will rise even more.

Most Defender owners are in no hurry to sell. If you're patient you may get a bargain, but that will be rare and a low price for a good example will be above the original new price.

I think prices will continue to rise for all Defenders in good condition, especially because any new model, if it ever materialises, will be entirely different.

The Defender lineage has been broken IMHO. Anything original will keep rising in price.

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Originally Posted by scarry

You can't compare the USA second hand market for Defenders to ours,as they have not been available there for years.

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On the contrary Scarry, Defender prices will rise in Australia in the future for this reason... They are no longer available.

...and they are iconic like virtually nothing else.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

for that price, you could of got a good car :p

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:D What is wrong with a noisy clunky Defender? :D
Chris

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Originally Posted by cafe latte

:D What is wrong with a noisy clunky Defender? :D
Chris

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Nothing if that's what you want:p

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Originally Posted by cafe latte

:D What is wrong with a noisy clunky Defender? :D
Chris

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

On the contrary Scarry, Defender prices will rise in Australia in the future for this reason... They are no longer available.

...and they are iconic like virtually nothing else.

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In the US,the numbers of Defenders compared to the population is completely different to here.A few were imported between 1993 and 1997,and older ones may be imported,but the rules are very very strict.Very few come in for this reason.

Prices go up,and down due to supply and demand,and what people will pay for them.
Much more demand in the US than there ever will be here.

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Originally Posted by scarry

In the US,the numbers of Defenders compared to the population is completely different to here.A few were imported between 1993 and 1997,and older ones may be imported,but the rules are very very strict.Very few come in for this reason.

Prices go up,and down due to supply and demand,and what people will pay for them.
Much more demand in the US than there ever will be here.

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This is true, currently I have 44 D90's newer than 2012, that I've saved from carsales. With that much choice they are hardly hard to come by.

Stumbled across a D90 in a car yard today:

2013 Land Rover Defender Manual 4x4 MY13

It had been well setup for touring duties and looked a nice clean example. It had been traded in on a BT50, the guy wanted something to tow his van better according to the sales guy. If it was me I'd sell the van and buy a smaller one.

I'm sure residual values on Defenders will always be good, I just don't think they'll be as good as some hope long term.

As far as what a new model might do, you only have to look at Jeep and how owners of TJ Wranglers felt when end of model arrived and the JK was unknown. In reality its been the best thing Jeep have ever done.

Ok lads, let's check back in 2020. Cheers!

PS: I wouldn't sell mine for $100K ...you can't even buy a decent Disco or Tojo 200 for that and neither are as good as a Defender. Was at the dealer waiting for service pick up. Sat in a new Range Rover, nice leather but the rest? No thanks. At $250K? bonkers.

Ciao

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

Ok lads, let's check back in 2020. Cheers! PS: I wouldn't sell mine for $100K ...you can't even buy a decent Disco or Tojo 200 for that and neither are as good as a Defender. Was at the dealer waiting for service pick up. Sat in a new Range Rover, nice leather but the rest? No thanks. At $250K? bonkers. Ciao

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On the contrary, SDV6 SE just under 80k, 200 Series GXL 82-83K.
I would hardly say a Defender is better than these two examples, rather a personal opinion.
There is nothing about the Defender that is better than these two examples except nostalgia.
Yes the Defender is Iconic and somewhat eccentric and comes to its own in certain ways but I wouldn't class it as better.

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Originally Posted by Babs

On the contrary, SDV6 SE just under 80k, 200 Series GXL 82-83K.
I would hardly say a Defender is better than these two examples, rather a personal opinion.
There is nothing about the Defender that is better than these two examples except nostalgia.
Yes the Defender is Iconic and somewhat eccentric and comes to its own in certain ways but I wouldn't class it as better.

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What's $15-20K between friends?

How I think Defender is better:
Bigger chassis
Better clearance
Better suspension/wheel articulation
More useable space
Better fuel economy
Better seating position
Hose out / no carpet / pragmatic
Easier to bolt accessories on
Standard 16 X 6.5" tubeless wheels
Designed for the bush in original spec
1 tonne load capacity
Iconic design
Individual character
Resale value
Unmatched Camaraderie

Nostalgia has nothing to do with it.

Infact it's JLR designers thinking that nostalgia is the most important thing going for Defender that will result in the new model Defender being a poor design.