Defenders on "Car Sales."

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4th June 2016, 07:25 AM
cafe latte

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

I think you're right to some extent Stean. 300 Tdi Defenders will continue to increase in value here as wel as USA. But I also think puma Defenders will too. They will be 'old' in 15 years time; by then they will also look very simple electronically in comparison with anything new in 2030. They already are in comparison to most new vehicles.

You are not wrong!! One reason we got the Mahindra as a second car is just about everything else are like space ships inside.
Chris
4th June 2016, 09:27 AM
Andrew86

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

Yeah sure Didge, but then I'd think, what can I buy for $100K? Landcruiser? ...pfffft gas guzzling whale. Disco? Nah, toorak tractor. Range Rover? Not even half way there and too much fake walnut. Hmm ...GWagen? Still not enough coin. And none of them would make me smile like a Defender.

Exactly right, Mr L. I don't see the rising prices as profiteering or gouging, I see it as an adjustment. There was an artificial ceiling on prices prior to "the end" that meant all used Defenders were priced relative to the RRP of a new one.

Now that ceiling has been removed, prices are influenced by substitutes and alternatives - most of which cost significantly more and don't come close to feeling as special. That's not rose coloured glasses, that's just a fact.

I didn't buy my Defender as an investment, but I still can't help but feel that we all got a bargain buying these things when we did.
4th June 2016, 09:52 AM
Tombie

And coming soon - lots of MY15/16 models being sold as the original purchasers who got one to be "trendy" realise they're actually a work vehicle and offload them.

Market take up in the last 12-24 months was people thinking it would be Urban cool to have a Defender.. You know, those Beard Wielding, Tight clothing, Deconstructed Coffee drinkers [emoji48]

The artificial prices being asked at the moment won't last - look at the limited editions of the past - TR and SVX..

Enjoy them for what they are.
4th June 2016, 10:13 AM
kogvos

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Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

I couldn't sell mine for a $100K. well, maybe if I washed it. :p

It's raining today. Chuck it outside and you could get lucky.
4th June 2016, 11:08 AM
cuppabillytea

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Originally Posted by kogvos

It's raining today. Chuck it outside and you could get lucky.

It is indeed raining today. The yard where we keep our boats at work is unsealed. Luckily the weather has sent my ships to the night shift. :p My car is always outside but it usually doesn't rain until I wash it. Guess what I did on Monday. :confused:
The muddy yard is waiting for me to arrive at 0500 tomorrow. :(
4th June 2016, 11:10 AM
cuppabillytea

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Originally Posted by Tombie

And coming soon - lots of MY15/16 models being sold as the original purchasers who got one to be "trendy" realise they're actually a work vehicle and offload them.

Market take up in the last 12-24 months was people thinking it would be Urban cool to have a Defender.. You know, those Beard Wielding, Tight clothing, Deconstructed Coffee drinkers [emoji48]

The artificial prices being asked at the moment won't last - look at the limited editions of the past - TR and SVX..

Enjoy them for what they are.

Nail on the head again.
4th June 2016, 03:32 PM
steane

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Originally Posted by Reads90

My 110 300tdi along with my 300tdi 90

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Nice :D Your 110 is almost the spitting image of mine, except I've got the two door Hardtop.

But how about these Defenders on Carsales eh? (just keeping it on topic...)
4th June 2016, 03:44 PM
Reads90

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Originally Posted by steane

Nice :D Your 110 is almost the spitting image of mine, except I've got the two door Hardtop.

But how about these Defenders on Carsales eh? (just keeping it on topic...)

Sorry I was trying to point out that even though I actually missed buying a brand new one.
One of the last in Aus was in Brisbane and someone beat me to the dealership by 30mins and put a deposit on it. That was nice tint and leather and brand new and was $60,000 on the road
I have been looking at ones on line and they are just stupid money for a second hand one. Plenty of 90's about but not much 110's and they are asking a fair bit.

I have since decided that I am going to not get one and keep my 110 as it is easier to maintain and live with. Also have all the toys on it so would have to start again.

Another thing that made my mind up was after a very wet drive back through Fraser where we had a lot of water and hard driving due to weather. The two Hi Lux Toyotas with me had electric problems with both their cars and my 300tdi had no problem.

But I do wonder how many are selling at there stupid prices and long they will continue for.
4th June 2016, 04:30 PM
steane

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Originally Posted by Reads90

Sorry I was trying to point out that even though I actually missed buying a brand new one.
One of the last in Aus was in Brisbane and someone beat me to the dealership by 30mins and put a deposit on it. That was nice tint and leather and brand new and was $60,000 on the road
I have been looking at ones on line and they are just stupid money for a second hand one. Plenty of 90's about but not much 110's and they are asking a fair bit.

I have since decided that I am going to not get one and keep my 110 as it is easier to maintain and live with. Also have all the toys on it so would have to start again.

Another thing that made my mind up was after a very wet drive back through Fraser where we had a lot of water and hard driving due to weather. The two Hi Lux Toyotas with me had electric problems with both their cars and my 300tdi had no problem.

But I do wonder how many are selling at there stupid prices and long they will continue for.

No need to be sorry Reads, I was just being a smart A, my keep it on topic comment was in jest and in reference to the thread being pulled back on topic a little earlier, not aimed at you at all.;)

I think you'll be glad you kept the tdi. Good ones are thin on the ground. Last good one I helped a mate buy went for close to $20k around a year ago. 90 percent of what you see on carsales is rubbish unfortunately.

I saw a 300Tdi with an asking price of $45k recently. Had a fancy camper setup, but that's silly pricing, just like the Puma pricing. But $45k Tdis will happen, just not yet.

For me the Puma is a hybrid caught between the classic simplicity of the earlier Defenders and the complexity of modern 4x4s. A space it sits in a bit awkwardly and a package that could have been better if Ford wasn't busy going broke at the time. I'd still like one though and could even buy one in the coming years, but not at the current mystical pricing levels, I'd prefer a D4.

But as I've said before, love the one your with;) What happens with prices is irrelevant unless you plan to sell, and i could never bring myself to do that.
4th June 2016, 05:50 PM
cafe latte

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Originally Posted by kogvos

It's raining today. Chuck it outside and you could get lucky.

With a Defender you get two for one, when you leave it out in the rain you wash the inside too :D
Chris

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