I see the 2015 model 90 with ~3k kms advertised for $62k is now marked as sold. Keswick green with white roof and looked stock. NFI what it sold for as I wasn't interested enough to make an offer.
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I see the 2015 model 90 with ~3k kms advertised for $62k is now marked as sold. Keswick green with white roof and looked stock. NFI what it sold for as I wasn't interested enough to make an offer.
Not a chance. Regardless of what the new Defender looks like or how it performs, it'll be an entirely new vehicle that takes the spirit of the original to a new place.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozscott
Just like when BMW made a new Mini and VW introduced the New Beetle, people will still love the original for completely different reasons.
Exactly Andrew, but neither Mini or Beetle have taken the world by storm because they're seen as replicas or fun cult cars, rather than serious upgrades. That was the risk with the concept Defender that was quashed. It remains to be seen whether JLR see next Defender as a fairdinkum working vehicle, or some hipster replica.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew86
Going on their current form - every new Land Rover vehicle is aimed at essentially the same luxury urban market (Disco Sport and Disco 5 case in point); and there is a very clear history of JLR not being serious about redeveloping Defender for the HD work / defence markets, I wouldn't hold my breath.
People will love current Defender for a long time to come. As you seem to be saying, prices will be dictated by factors other than new vehicle price comparison.
What would the hipster replica be (bearing in mind that to comply with safety requirements it will need to be full of air bags)? Will live axle front and rear but on a beefed up d3 underpinnings do the trick? Would independent suspension automatically quality for hipster replica? What about decent air conditioning? Cheers
Got an enthusiastic wave from a white puma HCPU in Richmond (NSW) this afternoon.
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If 2017 Discovery Sport pricing starts at $56,500 ($60K+ on road) as has been announced, I doubt a new Defender model will be under $75K+. As such, $60K for a low km current model iconic Defender is starting to look very reasonable. Sorry to say, I don't think icon Defender prices are going anywhere but up. And I'm someone who thinks the cost of living in this country is totally ridiculous.
Lol,...I agree, but particularly with your last comment,..."cost of living......"Quote:
Originally Posted by MrLandy
Pickles.
Cheers Pickles 👍
...we're all supposed to be blissed out by growth capitalism, in a society under extreme financial pressure, that most of us buy into and perpetually create every day through our spending / consumption priorities. We as a society are obsessed with money, markets, real estate growth ...but then we complain about price rises for possibly the most iconic vehicle ever built!
It's Bizzare to me that by dint of our grotesque wealth in the global context, we see fancy new motor vehicles as disposable objects! Many new Range Rover owners pay more for their disposable vehicle than I'm paying for my house.
In this context, it's entirely inconsequential that the Defender I purchased specifically before the end of production, rises by $10-20K. But I'm pleased I backed my judgement and took out a loan to buy one when I could.
Now I love driving it every day and to me it's not a disposable item. I doubt I'll ever sell it. That's the thing about Series/Defender Land Rovers, they were not designed as disposable items. They are the last mass produced, hand made, non-disposable vehicle we will ever see. Of course they are going to rise in value when no more are ever going to be made.
Our disposable approach to the planet through perpetual growth capitalist greed is clearly already coming home to roost.
I'll sell my Defender only if an affordable heavy duty non-disposable renewable energy alternative becomes a realistic option. Until then I'll enjoy my Defender for many years to come and I advise anyone else who wants one ...to get one while you can! Even if prices drop, you'll still love it.
Cheers
Please be kind to Hipsters. They suffer for their art.
I don't think we can predict new Defender pricing based on the Discovery range. The new Defender is supposed to be a separate range based on durability.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrLandy
I predict new Defenders will start with a poverty model well below the Disco Sport and then option up into somewhere around the top of the Disco Sport or the bottom of the D4. Probably be pitched to compete with the Hilux and Ranger, not the Disco.
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