Defenders on "Car Sales."

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Originally Posted by Colmoore

Yep and if you need a dc ute the only options are 130's or 75 series tojos. The 75 is ridiculously overpriced and I met 10 owners with the Toyota v8 having injector issues - 2 of those had replaced injectors twice as have my mates with hiluxes. The 75 suspension is tough but rustic and the cars as a whole are not what they used to be I think.

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I've met a few that have had clutch issues, one has had 3 front diffs, now has a hybrid patrol diff in it.

Well they aren't the only duel cab utes on the market, but they are the only duel cab that looks like it still belongs in the 60's.

That HCPU at Doncaster is still for sale on CarSales.

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Originally Posted by Vern

Load space isn't really the issue if you can't even fit in the car. I have tried to sit in a few pumas, i can barely get in at 6'5", would hate to have to do that every day, i would have to move the seat back, then there is even less room for my family, sucha bad design imho. This is the reason i will never get a defender, being comfortable is the first priority.

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Lol!!...6'5"?!!...My son in law is 6'8", and He really LOVES our 90, but He simply CANNOT get behind the wheel to drive it!
Pickles.

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Originally Posted by Zeros

I don't understand what makes a Toyota at $80K better than a Defender at $80K? I think Defenders are worth more than Toyota 70 series.

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I don't think I said the Toyota was better value than a Defender but for me 80K for a used 130 is over-priced. I think Toyotas are over-priced as well and like all 4x4's, have their issues. If others are happy to pay that sort of money then good luck to them. I might be wrong but I feel that if I sat a non-Defender/ Land Rover fan in a Defender which cost 80K used, took them for a drive and then told them what I paid, they might have a slight chuckle to themselves.

I can't complain about the high prices as I have a low km 2.2 Puma 110 and if they stay high that is great. I look at the prices being asked though and the movie "The Castle" comes to mind.

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Originally Posted by 4wheeler

I don't think I said the Toyota was better value than a Defender but for me 80K for a used 130 is over-priced. I think Toyotas are over-priced as well and like all 4x4's, have their issues. If others are happy to pay that sort of money then good luck to them. I might be wrong but I feel that if I sat a non-Defender/ Land Rover fan in a Defender which cost 80K used, took them for a drive and then told them what I paid, they might have a slight chuckle to themselves.

I can't complain about the high prices as I have a low km 2.2 Puma 110 and if they stay high that is great. I look at the prices being asked though and the movie "The Castle" comes to mind.

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Zeros,
There is a nice looking MY07 with 77,000km on it for around $48,000. If it has been looked after, I think that could be better value as you get all the joy of a 130 with a decreased potential to lose heaps if the prices drop when/if the mythical replacement Defender actually comes on line and proves to be a good replacement. On the other hand if the new Defender isn't much chop then the $80K for a 2016 130 might turn out to be a good long term investment.

I must admit that a 130 would be my dream Defender. My biggest problem is I'm conflicted as I enjoy driving my Defender but hate putting km's on it! Having it sit in the drive and only doing what it is designed for occasionally seems such a waste.

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Originally Posted by Vern

Load space isn't really the issue if you can't even fit in the car. I have tried to sit in a few pumas, i can barely get in at 6'5", would hate to have to do that every day, i would have to move the seat back, then there is even less room for my family, sucha bad design imho. This is the reason i will never get a defender, being comfortable is the first priority.

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Getting used to the defender seating took a while for me. I’m 6’3 and don’t have a problem fitting in my 90. The factory seats aren’t great. Since putting recaros in I feel the longer I drive the better it feels. 3-4 hour stints are a breeze.

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Originally Posted by D90 orkney

Getting used to the defender seating took a while for me. I’m 6’3 and don’t have a problem fitting in my 90. The factory seats aren’t great. Since putting recaros in I feel the longer I drive the better it feels. 3-4 hour stints are a breeze.

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And how much leg room is in the back seat?

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Originally Posted by Vern

And how much leg room is in the back seat?

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Im in a 90. I removed my back seats [biggrin]

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Originally Posted by D90 orkney

Im in a 90. I removed my back seats [biggrin]

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So no room then[emoji6].
I would have to fit my recaros, on rails to lift them and push the seat back further, then sell my kids because there is no way they would fit with any comfort at all.[emoji4]