Defenders on "Car Sales."

There's nothing heavy duty like a Defender on the market anymore. A low km quality Defender is better than a new Tojo 70 series and prices are reflecting that. No surprise here. What else would you buy? Happy to be corrected, but I don't see anything coming close...even a $120K G Wagen is not any better. Plus there are no wagon versions for sale anywhere.

I don't think defender is heavy duty.....

In fact I think most owners sell their defenders because it's not heavy duty enough/not reliable.

People are spending lots of money just because they don't trust the factory components hahaha

Prices up because city boys want them. That's all......

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Originally Posted by ATH

I started a thread on the "general" section (with virtually no responses) about the state of 2 Defenders I saw recently both advertised on carsales which I checked out.
No doubt both these vehicles have been through the dealers extensive checks before being putting out the front but I wouldn't touch either of them.
And they were both priced way above mine which although it has more kays on it, has probably had more attention paid to it as well especially when it comes to servicing and upgrading things like axles etc.
AlanH.

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Upgrade yours with led lights, makes the paint shine and perhaps paint the grill, light surounds and wheel arch GLOSSY BLACK.
And she will sell.....:D

Interesting. Which 4x4 do you think is heavy duty then?

Prices on Carsales don’t necessarily reflect the sale price... at all...

If somebody on here can say they got the inflated place they advertised for then perhaps there is some truth to it.

As it stands, the high price units sit advertised for a long period, I’m suggesting an interested party negotiates heavily on the list price and the sellers give in...

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Originally Posted by Zeros

Interesting. Which 4x4 do you think is heavy duty then?

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I have yet come across a defender owner who is satisfied with the build quality.

Don't get me wrong. We all love our defender but deep down we all know the quality is ****, evident by the so called "preventive maintenance". I.e. replace perfectly functioning factory gear with aftermarket upgrades.

To a point one will remove a functioning transfer box just to check the adapter shaft

Heavy duty 4wd should be designed to withstand the streets of demanding use. Perhaps you mean solid beam axle?

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Prices on Carsales don’t necessarily reflect the sale price... at all...

If somebody on here can say they got the inflated place they advertised for then perhaps there is some truth to it.

As it stands, the high price units sit advertised for a long period, I’m suggesting an interested party negotiates heavily on the list price and the sellers give in...

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A close friend paid $78k for his my15 110.
I told him everything about the defender and also I paid $40 for my my13 110 brand new, and he still bought it and happy
He had never been off road before then

It's just like bitcoin. People buy it because they think it has value. And then greed is involved as some started to buy it because they believe price will go up.

And what follows is people will come up with theories to support their expectation of price appreciation.

Cheers

"paint the grill, light surounds and wheel arch GLOSSY BLACK." Thnx. for the advice MartinH but no way would I do that. My vehicles don't need tarting up and quite frankly anyone who falls for that crap is going to be sorely disappointed when the gloss wears off those 2 vehicles I saw recently in yards.
Besides when I say it's in good condition, I mean it.
"Used well not abused to hell."
AlanH.

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Originally Posted by martnH

I have yet come across a defender owner who is satisfied with the build quality.

Don't get me wrong. We all love our defender but deep down we all know the quality is ****, evident by the so called "preventive maintenance". I.e. replace perfectly functioning factory gear with aftermarket upgrades.

To a point one will remove a functioning transfer box just to check the adapter shaft

Heavy duty 4wd should be designed to withstand the streets of demanding use. Perhaps you mean solid beam axle?

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No I don't, but a solid beam axle is heavy duty yes.

All brands of 4x4 vehicles have known faults and require upgrades. Some more than others.

...so back to my question, I'm genuinely interested to know - if Defender isn't heavy duty in your opinion, what vehicle is?

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Originally Posted by Zeros

......................... so back to my question, I'm genuinely interested to know - if Defender isn't heavy duty in your opinion, what vehicle is?

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How about one of these ? :)

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Australian designed and built Oka

Deano :)