Defenders on "Car Sales."

But but but I saw a bit of a program recently saying that a Toyota (of some description) was unbreakable! Surely a commercial channel wouldn't tell lies, would they?
Went on a club run recently where one bloke has a 200 series and has had fuel system probs. fixed under warranty some years ago and he was asking if anyone knew of a reliable diesel place to check his injection etc.
He got told of one highly regarded place and he then said he didn't want to go to them in case they gave him bad news..... or words to that affect. What does he want then? The normal bull crap which he's already had from the stealers or the truth?
Amazes me how so many have stars in their eyes about their "unbreakable, unstoppable, bullet proof" vehicles yet suffer from some very serious probs.
Our boy had serious engine and transmission problems with his 200 series only fixed after much arguing with Tojo and the stealers with assistance from the local consumer affairs lot.
But deary me the uproar from the exploroz Tojo lovers was laughable when I dared mention it.
Give me a Deafener or Disco any time.
AlanH.

PS. I've got a top class Deafener for sale with all the "quirks" fixed.......

...previous post not intended as Tojo bashing...just making it clear that all brands and HD vehicles have their foibles... but IMO Defender is better than others as a heavy duty 4x4.

By the way there are a few good looking Defenders on carsales, with relatively reasonable prices. Especially alongside comparable Tojo 70's (which is really the only direct competitor for Defender).

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you may want to at the very minimal, replace the turbo hose, drive flange maybe also axles. Diffs may explore because of poor setup (not enough back lash) in factory. Also may be worth checking the adapter shaft (not greased). And finally you may be thinking of a remap from day 1 because we all know how a stock tdci defender drives...

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Those issues are well known though, which means you can generally monitor and plan for them. As someone else has already said, fixing them doesn't cost much and it's a once-off cost on a vehicle that'll last decades longer than any modern car on the road.

Just out of interest, what do you drive and why on earth did you buy it?

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Replaced adapter shaft under warranty as a precaution when I had an oil leak fixed

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Just curious, how did you manage to get JLR to pay for a new adapter shaft as a precaution? Was is associated with the oil leak?

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Just curious, how did you manage to get JLR to pay for a new adapter shaft as a precaution? Was is associated with the oil leak?

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I paid cost for adapter shaft and dealer didn't charge labour. 👍

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I paid cost for adapter shaft and dealer didn't charge labour. [emoji106]

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Careful
Landy dealers hate applyong grease with a firey burning passion

I am thinking of buying a sprinter 4x4

Is it heavy duty? Any weakness about them?

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I am thinking of buying a sprinter 4x4

Is it heavy duty? Any weakness about them?

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Not compared with a G Professional wagon (although they don't seem to be available in Australia yet).

It's a jacked-up delivery van, but could be great if it suits your purpose.

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I am thinking of buying a sprinter 4x4

Is it heavy duty? Any weakness about them?

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Lol...according to you a defender isn't heavy duty but is a sprinter 4x4? The guy who does our welding had a sprinter and its the biggest piece of s..t hes ever owned he said. He bought it cause he wanted a "big tough" cab chassis to carry all his welding gear and ended up with constant suspension and wheel issues plus countless engine faults which cant seem to be fixed. It was so tough he got rid of it and bought a ford f150. Its doing the job no problem.

Anyone who says a defender is underpowered is missing the point of a defender! I know as ive got a 400hp patrol and i miss the defenders slow but steady "putting along". The defender is a tractor, a working vehicle and its supposed to do things as slowly as possible and as fast as necessary. You want a big horse power 4wd buy something else.

A defender is a canvas from which each individual can build their own idea of the perfect getaway vehicle providing a sense of adventure amd free spirit. Thats why they command such a great resale price. Vehicles like the defender are almost extinct and therefore if you want one you need to pay the premium.

My Patrol is better at a lot of things compared to what my defender was but let me tell you that if i had both sitting in the driveway and there was a zombie apocalypse tomorrow id take the defender every time! Why? Cause it was tough, could get me anywhere i pointed it and always got me home! I miss that car more than i missed any ex girlfriend after a breakup.....

Ps i made similar comments about how good my defender was compared to my bramd new my18 Patrol on the patrol forum and i was ridiculed and torn to shreds for making such a statement. One bloke actually told me my y62 was better offroad. I told that bloke that a y62, my mate mates twin locked and lifted gu on 35s, my mates 79 series, hilux, triton all struggled keeping up with it offroad and i was called a liar.....i eventually blew up and asked why they hated LRs so much? I eas told they were "unrelaible" yet none of them have owned one execpt one bloke who had one years ago. The bloke that owned one years ago said it was the most unrelaible car he ever had in his fleet. Maybe it was and maybe it wasn't i dont know but to judge a car cause of 1 model is unfair i think.
People love to hate defenders and can't handle the fact that a defender is better offroad than what they own....i stood my ground and will probably get banned from that forum eventually but its the truth!

My defender was and is tough. The bloke that bought it will love that vehcile and i hope i get it back one day [emoji24][emoji24][emoji24]
$65k was a bargin in my opinion.

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My Patrol is better at a lot of things compared to what my defender was but let me tell you that if i had both sitting in the driveway and there was a zombie apocalypse tomorrow id take the defender every time! Why? Cause it was tough, could get me anywhere i pointed it and always got me home! I miss that car more than i missed any ex girlfriend after a breakup.....

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Genuine question, why did you sell it?

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Genuine question, why did you sell it?

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New responsibilities mate. Have a unfinished house reno, a growing family and I needed the cash