Cooper tyres on 110

Ohhh dear. The new KM2 at probably $130 or more per tyre is not as well regarded as the old Maxxis Bravo
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And when they are rating them the negative ones are not because these are expensive tyres - the tales for the KM2 in the negative reviews are of tyres that blow out easily and tyres that will not balance up. Noone is saying hey superb tyre, better than the cheaper ones but i have only given it 3.5 stars because whilst it should be dearer than the cheaper tyres, not THAT much dearer...

I'm still not convinced, I never said they were a bad tyre I actually acknowledged they might be good for the price representing good value.

I just don't think they stack up to the bigger brands!

The new BFG AT I am aware are having problems just like when you buy a new series car.
Try comparing to the old style BFG AT the Maxxis can't even come close.

Regardless I never compared them to any one particular brand rather made the comparison between all the major brands.

I'm pretty sure a large percentage of Maxxis buyers if they had a larger budget to choose a tyre wouldn't opt for a Maxxis. My understanding is they have always been a cheaper alternative not a first choice. Again I never said they were bad, they're just not great.

I still can't find any tech info on them maybe because there isn't.

You don't really have to worry about my opinion my reason for choosing a particular brand over another is because of my experiences and info that I have processed over the years, that will vary greatly to others.

If someone posts on here what is the Best tyre choice I'm going to recommend based on my experiences the Coopers, and acknowledge the attributes of BFG, Bridgestone, etc.

If someone posts on here what is the cheapest best tyre choice then I'll leave that to you and your experiences with your Maxxis.

If you don't understand that and want to compare them against some of the major brands best performers, then I won't entertain the thought.

This is not personal so don't take my abruptness the wrong way, I'm not trying to **** you off, my views just vary widely from yours.

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No problem. I didnt have budget in mind when i purchased Maxxis. They were recommended as the best tyre for my application that included regularly towing 2 tonns. The recommendation was from Jax as well as a number of others including family members who had run virtually all brands over some 30 plus yeats... It just so happened they were not the same cost as BFG etc. I am not trying to convince you because you have clearly made up your mind and equate cost with quality.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by ozscott

No problem. I didnt have budget in mind when i purchased Maxxis. They were recommended as the best tyre for my application that included regularly towing 2 tonns. The recommendation was from Jax as well as a number of others including family members who had run virtually all brands over some 30 plus yeats... It just so happened they were not the same cost as BFG etc. I am not trying to convince you because you have clearly made up your mind and equate cost with quality. Cheers

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Scott you hit the nail on the head- "you have clearly made up your mind and equate cost with quality" Damn right I am a strong believer in "you get what you pay for" and my choice has proven me right.

And just in case you were under the impression that I was directing the price conscious decision towards you personally, I wasn't, I was generalising.

I'm happy they work for you, I don't think driving a Defender which has a lack of soundproofing, will IMO accomodate a noisy tyre.

Scott I'm sure they are a reasonable tyre for some, we are all different in our choices, what a boring world if we were all the same.

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I was at my local Jax today getting two new Hankook ATs in 215/75/15LT fitted to the camper trailer ($179 each) and asked questions about 235/85/16s for the Defender. The Pirelli Scorpion ATRs are about $240 while the Hankook ATs in the same size are about $225. Both are 120 rated and LT. Prices are certainly good. So there's two more choices. Both have gotten good write ups, so worth considering.

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I have the Hankook Dynapro M/T's in 265/75R16. 30,000km so far and going strong :)

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I was at my local Jax today getting two new Hankook ATs in 215/75/15LT fitted to the camper trailer ($179 each) and asked questions about 235/85/16s for the Defender. The Pirelli Scorpion ATRs are about $240 while the Hankook ATs in the same size are about $225. Both are 120 rated and LT. Prices are certainly good. So there's two more choices. Both have gotten good write ups, so worth considering. Sent from my SM-G900I using AULRO mobile app

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The Pirelli Scorpion I had on a Jeep a few years back, I never used them Offroad but they were fantastic on road, found them to be a softer compound and stuck really well in the wet, they were quiet and handled as they should. Oh and I got about 100,000klm out of them.

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As I read these posts I seem to see a similar passion and arguments to our old Landrovers vs Toyota vs Nissan etc debate!

In my un-informed opinion there seems to be enormous variation in all brands.

One example I had was 9 years ago we bought a Prado when we where living up in Karratha. I copped a bit of flack about not swapping out the standard Dunlops for Coopers or whatever. Heard from some other Prado drivers how they barely got 20,000km etc out of them.

Anyway, in the end I got over 80,000 from them and they may have got a bit more but front went out of alignment.

I currently have the standard Michelins my Defender came with. Got me everywhere so far and seem pretty quiet. Done 40k and look like they have a lot more to go - test now is to see how much more I get!

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I currently have the standard Michelins my Defender came with. Got me everywhere so far and seem pretty quiet. Done 40k and look like they have a lot more to go - test now is to see how much more I get!

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I'm currently sitting on 33,000 km on the factory goodyear MT's... Tread is pretty much down to the TWI's and starting to chip badly.

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Originally Posted by travelrover

Hi all

Has anyone had experience with Cooper S/T MAXX 235/85R16's on a defender 110?

I had two fitted to the rear on the weekend (on advice from the local tyre specialist). Prior to this I had Michelin XZY 750R16's which were due for replacement. I was looking for a quality tyre with a long life. Still have Michelin's on the front.

The Coopers are certainly quieter but the vehicle (ute) feels unstable on the rear and for the first time ever I got in a rear slide driving home on a (gravel) road I drive everyday, and have done for 20 years.

Have I got the wrong tyre? Would it likely improve if I spend the additional $660 and fit them to the front?

Appreciate any guidance.


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I've said similar in the 255 thread, when I bought my 110 wagon it had cooper st 235, which felt like crap, slippery in drizzle on tar and chipped on gravel, as soon as I got enough cash bought maxxis bighorns 255/85 ( 2 main options in that size are bfg km2 mt or bighorns)they felt more stable in dry, better grip in wet and better than a mate who put 285 coopers on his patrol off-road.:D
Honestly they did about 60- 65,000 km but coopers supposedly do more, and get noisy when almost worn out.
Another review of tyres for defenders by a uk Landy mag WHO ARE NOT SPONSORED found kuhmo kl71 to be better than all others, problem is their directional and wear quicker. But they are , in oz, cheaper than bfg, maxxis, copper and all the big name mt. In going to try them next in a bigger size:twisted: maybe 315.