The "New" Defender, ...Your Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by Tombie

But MrLandy - it's dimensions are absolutely Poor!!!!! It's like the Anti-Tardis [emoji12] from outside they look huge, inside they're rather snug (even for smaller framed individuals).

Tight inside, offset driving position etc.
Limited leg room for second row.
And a back door design which is Iconic as it is impractical!

Even Icelandic versions are cut and shut wider in the body/chassis by 12" and then track widened again...

You have your preference for the current shape and I fully understand why - they're great fun... Whatever comes out of LR next will be suited to the needs of the world market, LR are demonstrating that admirably in the last decade or so.

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I disagree with the anti-tardis argument. Mine are absolutely Tardis! Friends can't believe how much I can fit in. And park next to a Tojo Troopy and they don't look so big. Much smaller, shorter and way easier to park than all current dualcab utes on the market!

I also really like the snug driving position and visibility it affords.

Ok I'll pass the new design if it's scaled up, keeping overall shape. ...deal? :cool:

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

Yup, for $150K and there's no way I'd take it out bush on a regular basis.

A totally redesigned Defender, keeping its iconic form, exterior dimensions and heavy duty practicality, with hybrid diesel, base model for circa $60K ...now we're talking. But it won't happen IMO.

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I think I'm done,I'm getting sick of the repeated negativity across numerous threads even though it's been explained over and over why the Defender has to change and LR themselves had said outright that it won't be a rebadged Discovery.Mr Landy you have decided not to listen to whats posted repeatedly which leads me to believe you have an agenda that your sticking with,good luck with it. Pat

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

Yup, for $150K and there's no way I'd take it out bush on a regular basis.

A totally redesigned Defender, keeping its iconic form, exterior dimensions and heavy duty practicality, with hybrid diesel, base model for circa $60K ...now we're talking. But it won't happen IMO.

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What's your opinion based on?
Yeah um I was theorising about a hybrid Defender based on trickle down from what's already on offer.
And besides, am I going to spend $150k on an amazing 4WD and not take it off road regularly? Hell no!!

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I'm arguing that it should have changed much earlier in order to stay out in front. (quote from Mr Landy)

Mr Landy, what exactly do you think it should have changed to?

You have already been informed so many times that in it's inherent design it wasn't possible to change it further without redesigning and re-engineering from the wheels up.

This is what JLR are currently doing.... they are changing it so they CAN stay out in front.

What part of your own wording don't you understand?

Defender should have been redesigned from the ground up years ago, just as all other Land Rover models have been, so that there is a new model ready to go now. Yet, Defender still hasn't been redesigned. There is no actual proof that it is being redesigned. Until there is, all any of us can do is speculate. I am speculating that it won't meet my expectations. You guys are all speculating that it will be awesome. So be it. We have a difference of opinion. You don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you. That's cool with me. Cheers

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

Defender should have been redesigned from the ground up years ago, just as all other Land Rover models have been, so that there is a new model ready to go now. Yet, Defender still hasn't been redesigned. There is no actual proof that it is being redesigned. Until there is, all any of us can do is speculate. I am speculating that it won't meet my expectations. You guys are all speculating that it will be awesome. So be it. We have a difference of opinion. You don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you. That's cool with me. Cheers

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Originally Posted by PAT303

I think I'm done,I'm getting sick of the repeated negativity across numerous threads even though it's been explained over and over why the Defender has to change and LR themselves had said outright that it won't be a rebadged Discovery.Mr Landy you have decided not to listen to whats posted repeatedly which leads me to believe you have an agenda that your sticking with,good luck with it. Pat

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It's clear that I don't agree with your agenda Pat, but no more than you have decided not to listen to my perspective. Best wishes.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

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...no more than the broken fanboy record blindly celebrating a new Defender that doesn't even exist.

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Originally Posted by Stuart02

What's your opinion based on?
Yeah um I was theorising about a hybrid Defender based on trickle down from what's already on offer.
And besides, am I going to spend $150k on an amazing 4WD and not take it off road regularly? Hell no!!

Sent from my SM-G900I using AULRO mobile app

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My opinion is based on my own observations, experience and intellect. Cheers

Caught a glimpse of the possible successor at the York Motor Show on Sunday:

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The clue is in the Rego!