Thread: The "New" Defender, ...Your Thoughts?

Originally Posted by rar110

I have to agree with Mr Landy that the new Defender will be nothing like the old Defender. The new model will be built by robots and will be more likely to appeal to the masses.

However I'm betting it will be more capable (depending on how you measure capability).

...and more importantly RELIABLE

Originally Posted by Summiitt

Why do you think the Defender failed in production? Because it didn't sell!, if Landrover Don't appeal to the masses then the replacement Defender won't work and In turn, sell units.
As another example, European heavy trucks have become massively popular in areas that were normally the domain of the American brands, Volvo, Scania, MAN, Mercedes are all overtaking Kenworth, Western star, and Mack. The reason? American trucks stay put with old design, old technology and poor ergonomics, the European trucks in comparison have invested money in R&D and are a bloody dream to operate and do the job better..
I think your holding onto some idea of a sentimental empire conquering vehicle that has had its day, bring on the new Defender..

Sorry Summit but i disagree mate. The American trucks are cheaper to run long term as opposed to the european trucks. The european trucks usually have a lot more technology, comfort and safety but also cost a lot more and when they break cost twice as much. This is my experience and what i have learned being around trucks

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Originally Posted by ProjectDirector

...and more importantly RELIABLE

Yes.

Originally Posted by Summiitt

Why do you think the Defender failed in production? Because it didn't sell!, if Landrover Don't appeal to the masses then the replacement Defender won't work and In turn, sell units.
As another example, European heavy trucks have become massively popular in areas that were normally the domain of the American brands, Volvo, Scania, MAN, Mercedes are all overtaking Kenworth, Western star, and Mack. The reason? American trucks stay put with old design, old technology and poor ergonomics, the European trucks in comparison have invested money in R&D and are a bloody dream to operate and do the job better..
I think your holding onto some idea of a sentimental empire conquering vehicle that has had its day, bring on the new Defender..

Sorry Summit but i disagree mate. The American trucks are cheaper to run long term as opposed to the european trucks. In fact most truck and dog combos are American trucks. Nothing works harder than truck and dogs that enter quarrys.

The european trucks usually have a lot more technology, comfort and safety but also cost a lot more and when they break cost twice as much. This is my experience and what i have learned being around trucks.

How this relates to the new defender i dont know. We live in a world where compromise is no longer seen as acceptable. Saftey, pollution and build cost dominate a manufacturers guide lines. Everything has to be built within these guides if they arent they are fased out. I love my Defender, theres nothing like it, wont replace it until it is dead and love driving it......if there is to be a new defender i just hope it is better than any toyota or nissan and does the icon proud.



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Originally Posted by MrLandy

I suggest that this is the more pertinent quote, "In the JLR backrooms, they know life would be easier without either the Defender or the need to provide a replacement. The trouble is, whenever you ask people what a Land Rover is, they point out, or sketch, their version of the off-road icon."

That was my point, Confucius!

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I hereby put an END to any and all speculation that LR are not working on a replacement for the old Defender.

Leaked footage of the secret testing and development program is found right here:
[ame]http://youtu.be/dif1mYc4wkY[/ame]

Originally Posted by Summiitt

There is a very good reason that F-trucks were the 3rd highest selling vehicle in the world for 2015..beaten only by VW polo and Toyota Corolla..

Well your average Yank wouldn't fit into a Polo or Corolla . Pat

Originally Posted by Babs

New 2018 spy pic. New Defender concept vehicle.

Mr Landy you should be happy with the new concept.



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I feel like a bit of a weirdo,people look at Ferrari's/Lamborghini's/Aston Martins,some even look at jap crap with garish Tupperware body kits hanging off them,me,when I think of the coolest vehicle there is I think of a Camel Trophy Defender. Pat