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So now just over 500km on them and they are still very very soft.
Fully loaded for my trip (96kg under my max GVM) and another 4 psi road test has me on bitumen at 34 front and 36 rear. All 4 have 14mm tread and will see how we go on the long haul to Broome starting tomorrow.
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With your load Jesters, I'd be running 50psi rears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesters Td5
I will be doing 4 psi run in am and will adjust accordingly mate. Will report back tomorrow night how I end upQuote:
Originally Posted by MrLandy
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After 5500KM with just over 3000 of that on black top and the rest Kimberly corrugations. The tyres are showing no signs of rock chipping despite my best efforts to hit every rock according to the Finance Minister in the passenger seat and the read measurements areQuote:
Originally Posted by Jesters Td5
FR 12MM
RR 12MM
FL 12MM (looks more abused than the others)
RL 12MM
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UpdateQuote:
Originally Posted by Jesters Td5
Blow out (bead separation), rear right cold pressure was 50PSI and hot 55 PSI about an hour before it blew. Sadly has now decimated the bush on the trailing arm as a result
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I would be surprised if the bush was caused by the tyre. I have seen some very disintegrated tyres that have not damaged those bushes. yours looks like it hasn't been flat for very far. https://www.google.com.au/search?q=s...AAvvyKzm7BM%3A
I'm a fan of Federals. Amazing in sloppy clay/mud. Amazingly quiet on the road for such an aggressive tread. Great braking grip. Not too sure of their longevity, as I only put them on when going out to play. Have a different set (Dunlop SP Road Grippers) for the road.
Agree with you, my only thought was that as I was cornering at speed (long wide arc of a corner on the highway) and it was the inside tyre that went and the car did quite a big wobble and slide initially is that inertia caused the issue. Weirdly I was almost empty when it happened, water tank empty, fuel less than half and all the food and camping stuff out of her as we were staying with friends for a few days. If loaded would say it was the load moving when it blew but am really just trying to think of what happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by dromader driver
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Jesters TD5, how is the long term report of these tyres? Would be interested in your views on your travels of how they fair. Also if anyone else has used these please advise:)
Example; how are they in differing (thin/thick/type etc etc) types of mud , sand, dirt, rocks, wet weather, dry weather and including bitumen.
I am about to go down the avenue of AT's on my alloy's and the Toyo M55 is one of two on my list. The other is the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac. Both in 235/85/R16 LT Load E.
If anyone has comments, I know they are a little bit different in someways between the two- though please let me hear your observations of the two.
I have Michelin XZL 7.50 R16 on Wolfs at the moment and need a more AT tyre to avoid destroying these on the road. The Deef is a semi daily driver, though often off road but not to extremes. The AT's will go on my alloy's, so i will have two sets of tyres to suit use, as I prefer to use the XZL for extreme conditions and tracks when planned and suit the conditions.
Thank you in advance for your and anyone's comments regarding the above.
If only Michelin kept importing XZL and even brought in XPS or other similar off road types still.
Cheers
James
I use the Toyo M 55 10 ply all terrain 235/85/16 fitted to standard split rims on the V8 Canned Loser tray back they make me drive at work- well I ordered it- insisted on it- when I couldn't hire a Defender. It averages 400km a day with two thirds of that on rough, potted, washed out rural roads out the back of Cloncurry here in NW Qld. I'll grant the thIng that it is mostly reliable and has endured some pretty poor treatment from the roads, but boy, it's as rough as hessian undies to ride in and a real handful to punt down the road. Roadhandling isn't part of the engineering input from the boys from wherever they come from. Anybody who reckons a Defender is rough is more than welcome to spend a day in this overrated, underengineered overpriced dinosaur and find out how truly luxurious a Defender actually is. And the Loser is mediocre at best but streets ahead of the pitiful things offered in the dual cab range by aĺl the manufacturers. It is my second Canned Loser after two totally forgettable new Jap dual cabs (all in the last 18 months- and this one goes in 3 more months). Anyway, bagging the opposition wasn't the sole intention of my piece. I fitted the Toyos last September and they're just about due to be renewed or replaced. If I was paying for them and not the council I'd buy them again without hesitation. They've done 36000km with only 3 punctures . The treads have worn down evenly with no heel and toeing that Canned Losers are renowned for with tyre wear. The mileage (kilometre-age doesn't seem to fit) may seem low but after the terrible run with original fitment Dunlops and the follow up Bridgestones where we had 6 blowouts and 9 punctures in a month on the same roads, these are brilliant. If the Dunlop or the Bridgestone kept their sides or treads on, they were shot (as in missing lugs, or worn to bald..... not actually bullet riddled)) at 25000km, so the Toyo seems durable- they still have the little sprues on their walls like new tyres.
The other Canned Loser we have runs the same type of tyre as my Toyos in a Maxxis. They've been as good and are about the same price.
The Tojo slides badly in mud, but is acceptable on most other surfaces. They howl a little on various sealed surfaces but not really loudly. The bum drifts out in any loose gravel but this is more about the poor front to rear weight distribution of your typical slapped together Jap offering than a failure in the tyre's ability.
For muddy use, I've had a great run on mines and gravel roads in sloppy and flooded conditions from the GT Adventuro ll's in 235/85/16 in all terrain on my Defender. They are a simple block pattern that cleaned black mud better than the Cooper STT fitted to another ute.
Harking back to "if I was paying for them....." I'm tempted to try these GTs as my next set to see if they were as good as I thought in the extremes as they were a fair bit cheaper than the Toyos and Maxxis. Even if they're brilliant, the trial would be over in under 6 months anyway. I'm on my second set on the Defender with a combined 140000 puncture free kms- but nothing like the roads I'm driving on now. The first set are still legal at 100000 neat but there is no way they'll last that long on a big fat heavy Canned Loser down our long and dusty tracks. If I wasn't so curious, I'd have another set of Toyos on without hesitation.
There are some pretty good tyres out there but that's my take on the ones I've used.
