How do you figure they'd run with stock springs and not 2" springs?
(This is a loaded question btw)
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How do you figure they'd run with stock springs and not 2" springs?
(This is a loaded question btw)
If you're going 255-85 I'd suggest getting Ozzy Tyres to get the Toyo Open Country MT in for you...
Just on full flex, they would stuff into the arches. They are an unassumingly big tyre. I run 2" and never had a rub on full flex even when dislocating springs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
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Originally Posted by Sirocco
A 2" (or any other) lift doesn't change range of motion... Only static ride height.
They will both stuff to the same point (the bump stop)
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Originally Posted by Tombie
If you run the same bump stops then you do have more motion. A lift physically increases the distance between axle and chassis.
I understand what your saying about the stopping point though. The limiting factor being the bump stops. The lift would allow more movement/flex on the opposite wheel before the bump stop contacted the other side. With lift comes extended shocks.
As an exaggerated example, imagine running 35s on a -2" Spring (assuming they would fit), there wouldn't be much movement!
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Glad you mentioned that. Many people think wider tyres are better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirocco
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Originally Posted by Sirocco
Incorrect - you're confusing it with Up/Down travel ratios.
Static ride height - height vehicle sits at normally
Range of motion - the arc through which the suspension can travel
A stock height vehicle that can cycle a tyre its entire R.O.M will be no worse than a vehicle that sits 2" higher Static but has the same R.O.M
The 2" higher will compress a further 2" from static but tyre will still end up at same point.
A -2" starting point will still compress to the same point also, it will have more droop though from its static height.
If a tyre doesn't fit stock, then it doesn't fit with a lift (unless - all bump stops etc have been changed to alter range of motion)
This also applies to vehicles like D3/D4 where larger tyres are fitted, in their case a suspension air failure can result in the vehicle sitting on guards & tyres before hitting bump stops. Imagine a major failure at speed dropping a tyre into a guard at 110km/h....
They never consider that scenario....
I'd be pretty keen to at least price a set of these, but according to an email I had back from Toyo Australia on Friday, they don't bring 255/85 into the country and never have. Interestingly, there are a couple of Australian online tyre retailers who list them as "Sold Out". Maybe parallel imports? Is that what Ozzy Tyres do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
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Originally Posted by eeyore
Ozzy tyres will order and provide full warranty.
They do as you have noted.
The Tyre is worth every cent!
Ive got/ had them on my 110 wagon for 6 years. With original sagged suspension on stock alloys they where close to touching the rear spring mount. When I lifted it and put in long travel suspension by raising shock mounts and fitting 11.5in travel shocks it rubbed on the rear spring mount. I fitted 30mm spacers effectively making the offset zero and no rub.
Also the def handled/ felt better with the bighorn 255's than the older 235 coopers. And it felt much more planted off road with the spacers, my next set are steel -25mm and probably 315.
The toyo's sound good Tombie as I'm looking to go bigger again soon, do they come in 315 at a reasonable price?