Unsafe bull bars

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Originally Posted by jimr1

Hi , I still have both ARB winch bars , The earlier winch bar is a better bar than the later Delux bar . For those that don't know it comes as a one piece bar , you have to drill extra holes in the chasse They sit further forward , have better access to the winch spool lever , and can see the cable , or rope a lot better . They are very well made and very strong . The Delux Bar comes in 3 pieces , with sims to get the thing level , So the front part of the bar is held on by bolts to the two chasse mounts , Also it sits very close to the front grill . The bar is heavy and well made also , but is poor designed . When I talked to ARB about some issues I was having , they weren't very interested . That was a big disappointment . I think I might get the front welded to the two chasse mounts making a lot stronger , that would stop it twisting back into the front of my truck , Also if it was winching . I do like the look of the Delux bar over the earlier bar , but there is nowhere to put the winch hook ? Jim .

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Your hook should fit into the recovery points within the highlife jack mount on your delux bar or put a shackle onto it..

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Originally Posted by Summiitt

Your hook should fit into the recovery points within the highlife jack mount on your delux bar or put a shackle onto it..

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I know you can fit a shackle , What I should have said is , as we all know the earlier bar has two tie down loops as part of the bar . The Delux doesn't have these loops or holes that the winch hook fits into . My hook does fit into the high lift jacking point , but I don't like it there as much as the earlier loop . Simply because you have to put a bit more load on the cable to get the hook to stay in place !!.. Jim :)

You shouldn't hook like that anyway.

All line should be retracted into the hawse.

Hooking on leaves the first foot or two exposed and induces a weak point - especially if using synthetic.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

You shouldn't hook like that anyway.

All line should be retracted into the hawse.

Hooking on leaves the first foot or two exposed and induces a weak point - especially if using synthetic.

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Hi , I can understand having a foot of plasma rope hanging out of the front wouldn't be good for the rope , Grit stones , sun ect . I have a steel rope . I don't like just the hook sticking out the front , I liked how It fitted quiet nice on the older bar loop out of the way . I don't like the cable being to tight on the drum especially if the cable isn't wound on in layers , as they never rewind like that . Jim..

Same problem with SWR sitting out the front..
Doesn't need to be tight either just enough to keep hook sideways against hawse [emoji6]

Only passing on experience and advice. To each their own...

I keep my hook in the vehicle and the rope attached up front with a cable tie - that way any failure causing it to take off only results in just a simple snapped cable tie and flat battery...

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Same problem with SWR sitting out the front..
Doesn't need to be tight either just enough to keep hook sideways against hawse [emoji6]

Only passing on experience and advice. To each their own...

I keep my hook in the vehicle and the rope attached up front with a cable tie - that way any failure causing it to take off only results in just a simple snapped cable tie and flat battery...

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I like that idea of keeping the hook in the vehicle , After all that's where the control should live . To be honest I don't use my winch very much . Most use it's had is helping other people out , I think I'm drifting off topic !!.. Jim

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Originally Posted by jimr1

I like that idea of keeping the hook in the vehicle , After all that's where the control should live . To be honest I don't use my winch very much . Most use it's had is helping other people out , I think I'm drifting off topic !!.. Jim

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I like this too.
I fitted up my current shape ARB bar to the Defender a few weeks ago. I m quite happy with the fit up and strength of the whole assembly.
It does sit close to everything but certainly no closer than other vehicle/bar combos.

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Originally Posted by strangy

I like this too.
I fitted up my current shape ARB bar to the Defender a few weeks ago. I m quite happy with the fit up and strength of the whole assembly.
It does sit close to everything but certainly no closer than other vehicle/bar combos.

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I found I had to fit one shim , on drivers side , and 3 on the passenger side . I'm having new shims made that are 10mm and 4mm thick covering a larger area than the ARB ones , this will put the bar just a little further forward , and that will suit me , plus give me just a bit more room to get to spool lever !!.. Jim

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Same problem with SWR sitting out the front..
Doesn't need to be tight either just enough to keep hook sideways against hawse [emoji6]

Only passing on experience and advice. To each their own...

I keep my hook in the vehicle and the rope attached up front with a cable tie - that way any failure causing it to take off only results in just a simple snapped cable tie and flat battery...

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I do something similar, the hooks velcro'd to the controller and a shackle under the drivers seat and the cable has a rope tied through the eyelet thats then tied to the bar work, the cables then wound on until the rope is "tight" which is usually 1-2 wraps of the drum with the rope.