Defender Minimalism

I like them.

By far the most comfortable nights sleep camping I've ever had and very quick to setup and pack away. The stretcher on its own is reasonably firm and quite comfortable but I put my thermarest in there as well for insulation. The first night we used them without and we froze, but that was in the Blue Mountains in winter. Have had a couple of wet nights in them with no problems but nothing serious.

I'm not totally convinced about their longevity yet, maybe that's just because I'm used to good quality canvas. They have a bit of a lightweight feel to them, but probably no more so than most tents. So far so good though.

Cheers,
Jon

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Originally Posted by jon3950

I like them.

By far the most comfortable nights sleep camping I've ever had and very quick to setup and pack away. The stretcher on its own is reasonably firm and quite comfortable but I put my thermarest in there as well for insulation. The first night we used them without and we froze, but that was in the Blue Mountains in winter. Have had a couple of wet nights in them with no problems but nothing serious.

I'm not totally convinced about their longevity yet, maybe that's just because I'm used to good quality canvas. They have a bit of a lightweight feel to them, but probably no more so than most tents. So far so good though.

Cheers,
Jon

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They sound really good Jon, thanks. What make are yours? I might have to take a closer look. Cheers

Stretcher + swag works well for me. I like being up off the ground and the Saul swag with mattress makes it quite warm and comfy.

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I have used all manner and thickness of air beds, and self inflation mats (through to 4 in thick) and different brands. By far the most comfortable sleep I have found is an alloy stretcher with thin self inflation mat on top and normal pillow. Nothing worse than when sleeping on your side and having you head too low relative to your shoulder... Rye neck time!

When I was 20 I didn't care and would sleep in a bag without a mat on the ground. 2 and a half times that age and... Not any more. Cheers

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

They sound really good Jon, thanks. What make are yours? I might have to take a closer look. Cheers

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I went for the Oztent bunkers:

Jet Tent Bunker

I can't remember what we paid for them (not as much on the website) but they are not cheap. I eliminated the Oztrail one on grounds of quality.

The other one I liked the look of at the time was the Kulkyne Homestead:

Drifters Creek :: Everything in Camping & 4WD

I thought they were a bit bulky and more complicated to set up though. I'm sure you could get similar results with a stretcher and a swag, but at the time I bought them I still had the Disco so was a little more concious of space.

Some more about my set up and the journey I took to get there is in my build thread, here:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/2541341-post28.html
and here:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/2544272-post39.html

Since then I've changed to a Rapidwing awning and some drawers, but it's still pretty minimal.

Cheers,
Jon

Simple...

This is our last camping trip with the hammocks and simple alcohol burners for cooking. Laying around and then a few walks exploring the area doesn't get much better.