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    Review of (an idiots guide to) puma engine oil

    Confusion abounds. It appears opinions on engine oil selection for the puma is like an arsehole- everybody has one. I've attempted to pull together info from a number of threads regarding Puma oil, in the hope to get some sense out the other end. Sadly, I don't think I've yet seen the light. Please feel free to discuss, as most of the info I've come across in 'the good oil', and via google custom AULRO searches is a bit dated.


    From what I've read- and please correct me if I'm wrong:
    1. Owners manual says Castrol SAE 5W30 (And that's it)
      I think we can all agree that, aside from cost, more frequent oil and filter changes are better than less frequent changes. Synthetic oils have a better stability / service life over non synthetic oils.
    2. DPF is not fitted to 2.4 Tdci defenders in Aus. Not sure about the 2.2 Tdci- whether it was fitted in later models (My 2012 is immune -blanking bung present on the top of the exhaust manifold).
    3. DPF stipulates the higher and more costly oil grades the -C designated oil (see below).
    4. This thread, and by interpolation, This post Mentions 'Ford' Spec WSS-M2C913-B compliant oils. Also worth noting that the WSS-M2C913-C spec oil shown here is backwards compatible with engines requiring the B spec.
    5. I'm led to believe the WSS-M2C934-B oil is for DPF fitted vehicles? Would using this be overkill for a non DPF fitted vehicle?
    6. Blowing the model out to all models of defender, this list is useful for grades and volumes, but not up to date. Maybe a job for someone to review? Notably, oil volume is stated at 6.3L on the above link, but 7L in owners manual and Castrol dealer site. FYI, MIN to MAX on dipstick on the puma is 2L capacity according to owners manual.
    7. Multiple sources here, and here, suggest Castrol Magnatec 5W40 (going against LR oil viscosity recommendations). Castrol SLX professional 5w/30 OE is suggested to be a VW spec oil, and has a higher SAPS rating than the Castrol edge professional C1 5W30. This chap is running Castrol Edge 0W40.
    8. MR Auto was/is running Valvoline Syntec 5W40.
    9. And then there's the Penrite brigade, ENVIRO+ 0W-40 or 5W-40, and HPR Diesel 5 . To add confusion above all, there's Pennzoil 5w40 full synth or Shell Ultra 5w30 full synth. Even Mobil Delvac 1 gets a mention in this short thread.
    10. I live in an area where summer days can push well past 40, and winter mornings are in the negatives. My defender is not a daily drive, but when I do drive it, it's usually either highway Km's or bush tracks at low speed, idling around tracks. If I drive it locally, its usually sub 5km trips, barely enough to get it to operating temps, but I try to limit this kind of driving for wear and tear reasons (I have another car for this, jump right in and give it a bit of redline for a good time!). So interested in the 5W30 vs 5W40 weight debate- where the 40 weigt oil is better suited to higher ambient / operating temps.


    So, help a brother out? I think Castrol Edge Professional C1 5W-30 is the best I have to go off as 'THE' oil, as mentions in this thread. Price and availability may dictate otherwise, as I'm not pushing the oil service life as far as LR may expect me to.
    Last edited by Bytemrk; 22nd December 2016 at 09:19 PM. Reason: Edited DPF Spec Oil at Toxic's request.
    -Mitch
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    I played this game earlier in the year - attached is what I came up with
    Mine is 2010 2.4L - this drum delivered to me in
    Bum-****-nowhere was $225

    Of all your listed this was the only Castrol product available that met specs in FNQ ????

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    Supercheap will get the Castrol C1 in for you as well for $225

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    I think I can read the WSS-M2C913-C spec on the drum. What's hard to know without a PhD in chem eng is how each brand of oil is different, and how different addatives etc make an oil better suited to different driving conditions. I must admit, in the past (for other cars) I've always bought oil based on the grade, and how gold / shiney the oil bottle was at repco

    So I guess as long as it's 5W 30, and meets the WSS-M2C913-C spec for use with a non DPF vehicle, should be right eh?
    -Mitch
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    Yep. And the C spec is a safe bet

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    This one Tombie?

    http://www.tds.bp.com.au/pdf/10704_E...205W-30%20.pdf

    Seems to be the higher spec for DPF fitted vehicles as per this post.
    -Mitch
    'El Burro' 2012 Defender 90.

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    My Castrol distributor could only source that grade
    The lower spec non dpf was not available ? Ymmv.

    Castrol people seem to like the product number to search on 3369740

    Steve

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    Found this, showing some part numbers

    (Source) Cost guide- about 380 clams delivered

    And this

    (Source) Cost guide- TBA (but less than Castrol edge, as not full synthetic).
    Last edited by Toxic_Avenger; 16th December 2016 at 04:25 PM. Reason: Herp derp. I should have read the label. Magnatec is synthetic.
    -Mitch
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    My Castrol distributor could source neither of those options above?
    Hence why ended up with what I did

    If you get to look at a complete Castrol listing for 5W30 oils for diesos you will fall off your chair! My distributor however could not source all items on that list?

    I just concentrated on the Ford specification - and went a little bonkers in the process

    S

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    Had a good chat with a Castrol rep re oil for my TD5 and his comment was that A spec is more fore American and Japanese diesels, B is euro diesels non DPF and C is Euro with DPF. The TD5 and Puma both would be considered Euro Diesels

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