Oops yep, my bad!Quote:
Originally Posted by Disco-tastic
Still cutting it fine for a tourer..
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Oops yep, my bad!Quote:
Originally Posted by Disco-tastic
Still cutting it fine for a tourer..
That's a harsh assessment - maybe this vehicle doesn't suit you and that's ok, it's still a very capable vehicle. On the flip-side - perhaps you carry too much? A lot of people travel all over this country in completely stock vehicles well under their GVM etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
You don't really need all the gear.
Less than you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arch
Perhaps as a daily runabout, but very few are under GVM for a trip.
My D2 with 3 pax (2 skinny kids and me) was right on GVM for my 3 week Cape York trip and that was essentials only (I include as essential quite a bit of fishing gear...). The D2's load capacity is appreciably higher than an FJ. I like keeping it legal because of insurance (the heavy duty suspension and improved brakes could take more). I could not imagine being restricted to the FJ's load capacity when doing remote touring where carrying your own water and all supplies for remote camping is a necessity). The FJ is just not a genuine tourer for most people.
Cheers
What an absolute load of 💩 most of these reply’s are. Let me give you my 10 cents worth (2 isn’t enough 😝)
First cars I’ve owned
1998 GU patrol 4.2D
1999 D2 Td5 Auto
2003 D2a V8 5sp
2009 Defa Puma
2012 200 series V8 TTD
2012 Dodge Ram 3500 6.7 Cummins
2015 Toyo FJ Cruiser
Without a doubt best car I’ve owned is the RAM absolute amazing vehicle. Needed to buy a house so had to go 😢. 2nd best is the FJ. The thing is amazing. I used to tow our camper trailer with the Defa and what a joke. Thing was struggle town and that was with a tune from BAS in the UK. On the flat, not too bad. Hills 😱.let alone 3.5T! I have the FJ on injected LPG (as was my D2a) but this uses 16lt/100 with 34” MTs compared to 21lt/100 in the D2 on 32” (I get that towing our camper!). I have 95lt useable so 600km at $10.70/100. That’s about 8lt/100 diesel equivalent. Then I have a 125lt unleaded tank. Probably average around 14lt/100 so around 900km range. All up 1500km range (not towing). I do use premium tho so cost is more. But 220lt fuel capacity is pretty amazing. On road comfort is amazing. I have BP51 suspension (3” lift) and it handles like no 4wd I’ve driven. Off-road I have taken it everywhere I took the Defa and neither have been stuck. Just went around Walhalla Tuesday with a friend in their modded 200 (33” tyres, lift etc) and they had to have multiple attempts when the FJ walked up everything first time. Did I say it doesn’t let any dust in 😝? Crawl control is amazing. Rear locker and ATrac make it crazy capable. In the sand they are a weapon but you need to push the correct buttons. To me it is a bit of a modern Defa. There was LOTS of stuff I loved about my Puma. There was a lot more I hated. Thing was a dinosaur. The FJ is the other way around. Of course not for everyone. Rear doors are kooky but suit me. The cargo area is small but the Defa is hardly a 1.8mm long x wide Ram tub 🤔. With the stupid single rear Defa door, space is not ideal. Agree GVM is an issue but you can get an upgrade. I can tell you I accidentally towed 3.5t with the FJ and it did it ALOT easier than my Puma. For $45k brand new I don’t think there was as good a 4b
Not sure why you were getting such poor economy on LPG in the D2. I had a sequential BRC Impco on my 4.0 and then 4.6 in my D2. All the fruit in terms of front and rear bars, sliders etc, dual batts, 31inch tyres and it averaged in city work to and from the suburbs 16-17l per 100k (5 speed like yours).
Cheers
Where are your LPG tanks located in the Fjc? Cheers
It's an unfair fight to compare 34 inch to 32...fair bit of difference in off road ability with another 2 inches (although I understand that you were making a point about economy). From what i can tell you are well over your 50mm max increase going to 34's from stock 31.5. Having said that I do like the fact that the stocker tyre size is 2 inches more than the D2 stock size.
Cheers
[thumbsupbig]Quote:
Originally Posted by grover7488
I ready like the Defender after having worked on a few but brand loyalty is a slippery slope.
True but there are people on here that genuinely prefer a D2 or Deefer over the FJ for more reasons than brand loyalty.
Reasons include more space and genuine rear doors for second seat. More lòad carrying - size plus weight - ability to legally tow much more than an FJ (massive difference 2250kg v 3500kg...)...and many more reasons. Having said that I don't think the FJ is just a Prado in drag - it's more than that. But for my money it's not what I need.
Cheers
1 LPG tank that replaced the rear factory ULP tank. Would be better with twin tanks like the D2 but I wanted max capacity to do the Simpson and CapeQuote:
Originally Posted by ozscott
265/70/17 (stock = 802mm diameter)
295/70/17 (people call them 34” 🤔 = 845mm)