Thread: Toyota FJ thoughts

The FJ was built by Hino, not Toyota itself and also in China... unsure but I’d suggest Aussie delivered units came from Hino.

Originally Posted by martnH

Yeah Crawl control on FJ since .

The wiring in my defender is not good. The cables to main relay (critical components) is randomly taped by insulation tape. Look at yours and you will know what I mean. There are gaps in the loom and chaffing at certain places. My defender comes with at least half her nuts loose. The front radius arm diff side bolts should be torqued to 210nm but the arsehole fit them finger tight. The body to chassis bolt on driver side comes without the nut. So yeah

The Build lacks workmanship. The workers built my defender are careless , did not follow instructions and obviously have not pride in their work. Check out the Radom welding marks on the diff and chassis.

When I complaint, sometimes I get the "it's a defender" BS. Well I am not sadistic
when the Indian made defender comes out in the future, I want to compare the difference in build quality.



Anyway is the Toyota of better Build quality? I under steel is steel, alloy is alloy I am not expecting a car last a century but at least all bolts are tightened....


And I am not resist but is the Toyota that actually built by Japanese of better quality?

Cheers
Martin

P.s. still love my defender... Somehow

Actually my sons wasn't much better when it arrived.

And to add,the paint job on the chassis was that bad it could be scratched off with a fingernail.

To their credit,LRA,eventually,got about 80% of the issues sorted.

Not just bad PD,but also shocking quality control by the manufacturer.

The Discoveries i have bought new over the years,have gradually had better quality control,with the D4 the best by far,as it should be.

I was very underwhelmed being in an FJ Cruiser a few times. Not a patch on a D2 in most areas despite in theory being a gen or so ahead of D2. Cheers

Originally Posted by ozscott

I was very underwhelmed being in an FJ Cruiser a few times. Not a patch on a D2 in most areas despite in theory being a gen or so ahead of D2. Cheers

Made originally for the USA market thats why they are petrol.Who would make a 4wd for overlanding in petrol?????

You would have to prize my 4.6 V8 petrol out of my cold dead hands. No oilers for me. So I'm not criticising the 4.0.V6 petrol.save to say it's pesestrian and doesn't have the off idle grunt of the V8 rover. Cheers

Originally Posted by ozscott

You would have to prize my 4.6 V8 petrol out of my cold dead hands. No oilers for me. So I'm not criticising the 4.0.V6 petrol.save to say it's pesestrian and doesn't have the off idle grunt of the V8 rover. Cheers

oilers can be fun.
just as long as they came in 3.6l 8cyc packages.

Originally Posted by scarry

Actually my sons wasn't much better when it arrived.

And to add,the paint job on the chassis was that bad it could be scratched off with a fingernail.

To their credit,LRA,eventually,got about 80% of the issues sorted.

Not just bad PD,but also shocking quality control by the manufacturer.

The Discoveries i have bought new over the years,have gradually had better quality control,with the D4 the best by far,as it should be.

Good to know that.
My wife really likes the D4 and plan to buy one.

Yes I agree land rover customer care is great and willing to fix all faults and 2 out of 3 dealers I dealt with have been very helpful.

Sometimes I wonder if those JLR workers who build the defenders knows how frustrating it is to fix their work (for both the dealers and us). I watched the videos about the end of defender production. The facility is definitely 21 century very modern and those man and women who worked there look focused on their work.....

Cheers
Martin

With regards to diesel engine...I have a healthcare/public health background.
So I will say in the future, diesel may become the new Asbestos. (I will say very likely. For one thing it is unethical to conduct a RCT to accurately and statistically prove the effect of diesel exhaust. Just like cigarette smoking, there is no solid *statistical* evidence to prove it's actually harmful. So in a way I wish VW have completed the gas monkey trial and made the data public.

You may laugh but back in the day Asbestos was so wildly used and even when ppl realize the hazard, it still took many years to outlaw its usage. If my memory serves me correctly, it took us human more than 100 years to realize how dangerous asbestos is.

One day we shall all look back at diesel and say, once upton a time diesel engine was widely used and the public has no knowledge of its health effects. Many even decat their diesel truck blablabla

Cheers