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    Hated Toyota 4x4's before I even ever thought of owning Land Rover's. Don't have to be biast, you can just not like them.
    And the driver's.....don't get me started.
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    I have recently bought a second hand 79 series V8 for 30k, If you asked me if I would buy another I would tell you in a heartbeat.
    Its a big solid truck with power to spare and it only uses 15l per 100k with 500 to 600kg in the back towing 2.5t of caravan
    The aircon works great and it is nice and quiet in the cab unlike a defender.
    The sweet sound of the V8 rumbling through the 4inch exhaust is something you will never hear driving a deefer.
    I love my D2 but given a choice between a deefer and a 79 series I would buy a Tojo every time.
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    Bear in mind Africa is on Euro3 so still have the mighty 1HZ , none of that V8 Rubbish



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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    Bear in mind Africa is on Euro3 so still have the mighty 1HZ , none of that V8 Rubbish


    We live in Australia so we can use the 4.5l V8 here, Nothing rubbish about those engines.
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    Yeah watched it. Yawn. Conveniently he doesn't fully talk about the 70 series' shortcomings, nor all the advantages of Defender.

    So ...ASPW starts off by saying, ‘I don’t know why Defender has the bonnet hump’! And then he ignores the fact that his Toyota doesn’t even need the hump! He then talks about the rear doors claiming Land Cruisers re are better sealed for dust! LOL The number of Tojo back foors that I’ve had jam and fill with dust is laughable.

    With the hill climb, at least he admits that ‘clearly the Defender is far superior’. The downhill issue is not something I’ve experienced in my Puma, except in reverse.

    Crossing the river he has to admit the Defender is better. Clearance and no leaf springs. The ride is better. And he reckons the Toyota is quieter on the highway, which I totally disagree with in terms of the Puma IME.

    Advantages of each from my perspective:

    Defender:
    Bigger chassis
    Aluminium body
    Lower centre of gravity
    Four coil suspension
    Better ride on road
    Better handling on and off road
    More capable off road
    Front and rear track equal
    Better wheel articulation
    Better ground clearance
    Better seating position
    More economical
    Puma is quieter
    Better GVM standard
    Better network of enthusiasts and indies.

    70:
    Bigger network of brand-friendly mechanics around the country.
    Better air conditioning
    More shoulder room (not that this bothers me at all)
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    We live in Australia so we can use the 4.5l V8 here, Nothing rubbish about those engines.
    until you need to replace a starter motor

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    until you need to replace a starter motor
    Yerrrrppp

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    until you need to replace a starter motor
    Or you get dust in it! (More so 200 series)
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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    Bear in mind Africa is on Euro3 so still have the mighty 1HZ , none of that V8 Rubbish
    If I didn't have an Isuzu powered LR I would be tempted by a HZJ76 (5 door with a 1HZ), shame we never got them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    I have recently bought a second hand 79 series V8 for 30k, If you asked me if I would buy another I would tell you in a heartbeat.
    Its a big solid truck with power to spare and it only uses 15l per 100k with 500 to 600kg in the back towing 2.5t of caravan
    The aircon works great and it is nice and quiet in the cab unlike a defender.
    The sweet sound of the V8 rumbling through the 4inch exhaust is something you will never hear driving a deefer.
    I love my D2 but given a choice between a deefer and a 79 series I would buy a Tojo every time.
    15L/100km? and the rest!! IME
    Puma Defender is definately quieter IME
    Aircon? Yes Tojo aircon is good, But you need to wear a kidney belt to drive it!
    Seats are terrible, ride is harsh and leaf springs are woeful IME
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