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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Haven't been around too many IFS Nissotas, John?
    Usually tuned and being flogged at the time.

    D4 is not immune either,as some on here have unfortunately found out.
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    Sadly (for the loss of the past) or thankfully (for our future) real constant four-wheel drive (like axle articulation) is no longer required. It has been rendered redundant. It requires effort. That effort requires energy. Energy requires fuel. The new Defender is only four-wheel drive when that is required. Sorry, it is no longer your choice. The FWH has come of age but now the machine will choose when the conditions require it. How much and when you put fuel into the fuel tank is the outcome.
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    FWHs on a Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by one_iota View Post
    Sadly (for the loss of the past) or thankfully (for our future) real constant four-wheel drive (like axle articulation) is no longer required. It has been rendered redundant. It requires effort. That effort requires energy. Energy requires fuel. The new Defender is only four-wheel drive when that is required. Sorry, it is no longer your choice. The FWH has come of age but now the machine will choose when the conditions require it. How much and when you put fuel into the fuel tank is the outcome.
    It’s interesting to compare the official fuel consumption figures for Toyota Fortuna vs Prado. They are very similar except Prado is permanent 4WD and Fortuna part time. The Fortuna uses 0.5lt/100km less in urban use and 0.3lt less combined. It prob adds up to about 100lts less diesel per year. I wonder whether it’s worth the fuel saving. I suppose JLR is trying to get the benefit of both in new Defender (and similar effect to FL2, DS and Evoque drive).
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    Quote Originally Posted by rar110 View Post
    It’s interesting to compare the official fuel consumption figures for Toyota Fortuna vs Prado. They are very similar except Prado is permanent 4WD and Fortuna part time. The Fortuna uses 0.5lt/100km less in urban use and 0.3lt less combined. It prob adds up to about 100lts less diesel per year. I wonder whether it’s worth the fuel saving. I suppose JLR is trying to get the benefit of both in new Defender (and similar effect to FL2, DS and Evoque drive).
    These days they seem to think electric power steering is worth the fuel savings. Of course, they average the emissions and fuel usage out over their entire line, and thus 0.3 lt adds up. It's also why Toyota could build big LCs. They are off-set by the 'efficient' hybrids they sell to the masses. It's also why Ford is building the Lightning. They will continue to build the huge V8 ones as well, as the market wants both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rar110 View Post
    It’s interesting to compare the official fuel consumption figures for Toyota Fortuna vs Prado. They are very similar except Prado is permanent 4WD and Fortuna part time. The Fortuna uses 0.5lt/100km less in urban use and 0.3lt less combined. It prob adds up to about 100lts less diesel per year. I wonder whether it’s worth the fuel saving. I suppose JLR is trying to get the benefit of both in new Defender (and similar effect to FL2, DS and Evoque drive).
    The Fortuna may also weigh less.
    For me I would rather put up with a very small increase in fuel consumption than have some complicated clutch set up that will no doubt be very expensive to repair.As one iota says,we probably will have no say in it.LR say it saves .7L/100,so in real driving maybe 1/2 that.Keeping tyres at the right pressure would probably make more difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    The Fortuna may also weigh less.
    For me I would rather put up with a very small increase in fuel consumption than have some complicated clutch set up that will no doubt be very expensive to repair.As one iota says,we probably will have no say in it.LR say it saves .7L/100,so in real driving maybe 1/2 that.Keeping tyres at the right pressure would probably make more difference.
    The Fortuna weighs about 5% less than the Prado.
    L322 tdv8 poverty pack - wow
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 49-107 (probably selling) turbo, p/steer, RFSV front axle/trutrack, HF, gullwing windows, double jerrys etc.
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 48-699 another project
    Track Trailer ARN 200-117
    REMLR # 137

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    Quote Originally Posted by rar110 View Post
    The Fortuna weighs about 5% less than the Prado.
    Yes... however the Fortuner is also smaller...

    55mm lower
    200mm shorter
    30mm narrower

    So lot less drag

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