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    FWHs on a Defender

    Do my eyes deceive me or does this 130 have free wheeling hubs?

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    No mention of them in the description.
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    Looks like it. Who's game to ask Wes?
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    Certainly looks like it. I seem to remember from many years ago, when the first coil spring 110s appeared, that there was a fairly brief vogue of converting them to part time four wheel drive, and someone made a kit to convert the transfer case. This meant that there was a market for the hubs to fit coil sprung Landrovers, and I have heard of them being fitted to the rear-rear axle of 6x6s.

    But it is many years since i have heard of it being done on a four wheeled one.
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    I can see the advantage in running FWH's... if u happen to break a front axle/CV, all u would need to do is remove the front driveshaft and unlock your hubs... (providing CV damage is not too severe)

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    Well, yes - but in over sixty years driving a variety of four wheel drives (including landrovers 1959-2022) and being round them all my life pretty much, I have never seen a broken CV in a four wheel drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robmacca View Post
    I can see the advantage in running FWH's... if u happen to break a front axle/CV, all u would need to do is remove the front driveshaft and unlock your hubs... (providing CV damage is not too severe)
    You can achieve the same effect on standard setup, just remove the front prop shaft and lock the centre diff to push drive to the rear axle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rar110 View Post
    You can achieve the same effect on standard setup, just remove the front prop shaft and lock the centre diff to push drive to the rear axle.
    Not quite. The wheels will still turn and keep scrunching the broken bits. But I agree that it doesn't make sense to fit FWHs. If you are that concerned about a broken CV, then you could simply carry a pair of FWHs and fit them when and if necessary. Or upgrade to stronger CVs. Or don't drive in such a cavalier manner that destroys CVs.
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    There's a perception amongst some people who were around 4wds in the 70s and 80s that full-time 4wd results in unnecessary wear on the front axle components and increased fuel consumption. That perception was behind part-time 4wd conversions by a small cohort of owners. Never mind that every manufacturer has moved to full-time 4wd in recent years / decades.

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    re broken half shaft or broken cv, as other have mentioned, drop the front shaft and remove the drive flange, tape a rag over the end, lock centre diff and drive home.

    fitting FWH to a constant 4x4, what a ridiculous idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by POD View Post
    There's a perception amongst some people who were around 4wds in the 70s and 80s that full-time 4wd results in unnecessary wear on the front axle components and increased fuel consumption. That perception was behind part-time 4wd conversions by a small cohort of owners. Never mind that every manufacturer has moved to full-time 4wd in recent years / decades.
    My father was one of those,had the front prop shaft off the S1,whenever it was not needed,or he thought so,i can remember having it stuck with no front shaft fitted more than onceOnce in the driveway,at home,the capstan winch was handy,as there were lots of trees around.

    The New Defender has actually gone the other way,for fuel consumption,being 2WD,with some fancy engagement for the front if needed,apparently.
    Saves some rediculously small amount of fuel,and more things to go wrong and wear out......
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