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That is interesting - floor mounted plates, I was advised, are not legal for the 110 in NSW. See my comments above about state interpretations - it suggests that you seek a solution in your own state. (I got two pillar type fittings which cost over $600 seven years ago, which I considered very poor value considering the quality of the work).Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
John
I tried to ring Streetwise. The phone goes through to another company, who reckon that Streetwise went out of business back in approx 2005. I'm going to try Vanquip next.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
Have seen this post late, but also went through similar dramas a few months ago, I bought a defender anchor bar from
Auto Seat Conversions Pty ltd
246 Manns Rd
West Gosford
2250
NSW
All up delivered it cost me $236.50, from memory i think the boss is called Colin. I then took it to an approved fitter to be fitted!
If you would like some photos of it fitted PM me your email and i will happily send some, the only difference between mine and the one in Bushies Photo is that mine was supplied with bolts instead of using the existing fittings.
hope this helps
decibelcore
Oh. Thats a shame. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by White Cedar
i had one fitted by southside when i brought my110 in 06 it is the same as the one in bushies photo. try calling southside sales yard they should be able to help, but i will check the blue plate in the morning for the mob that certified mine.
kEV
If you could send me a few pics that would be sweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by decibelcore
There is probably a good and obvious reason for this but why cant the seat belt mounting points on the floor of the 110 (94) be used.
My Volkswagen golf Hatch had mounting points on the floor factory of course so is it just hatches that allow this?:nazilock: There is some confusing and average ledgeslation out there. All I want to do is put the kids in the car and make them safe and not even gov departments can give straight answers.
Have a look hereQuote:
Originally Posted by naradataranto
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/good-oil/5...die-seats.html
The basic reason, as I understand several years after going through the whole process, is that a non-standard child restraint anchor point has fulfill one of two requirements. They either have to be so over-engineered that they will basically survive the complete destruction of the car, or they have to be stress tested.
If you put the anchor point more than 10cm from top of seat - the official number is something like that - the seat becomes part of the anchor point and who knows what it's made of; so you need to stress test.
So, the floor mount anchor points have already been tested or the manufacturer says they have, I dunno which.
Go the crab bar, at the end of the day all you want is to put your kids in the back and know that they're safe.
Cheers
Simon
Morning
Checked mod plate this morning and my restraint bar was fitted bt Auto Extras and their certify number is (2044). As i said in the last post southside should have the contact detials they should be able to get that bit right maybe
Kev
Hi,
I had VanQuip (Dividend St, Mansfield QLD 4122) fit a CRAB (child restraint access bar) today and it all looks very good. They sourced the item from Automotive Restraint Fitters Australia (NSW phone 02 9603 3902) and apparently it is the second last of new stock that they had. The distributor is not aware of anyone manufacturing the item any more in Australia. The item is very strongly engineered and welded - cost me a small fortune to have freighted to BNE.
I also had a good chat with Warren Tyson (workshop manager at VanQuip), who seems expertly knowledgable about restraints in all vehicles. I asked why no one was stepping in to maintain a product. He said that it cost just under $3000 to do the testing the last time that VanQuip certified a new design themselves (in QLD), implication being that there is not enough sales to warrant the setup costs. I also asked about the whole debacle about all the states being different compliance regimes. He said that this would all be changing next year, the impression I got was that there would be uniform rules coming, but he did not elaborate. He also confirmed the discussion about defender being a commercial vehicle and thus escaping the need for manufacturer preinstallled anchor points. He said that many similar multi-use 4WD, vans, utes were in the same boat.
All up the CRAB cost me $780 including freight, fitting, and modification compliance plate. Expensive, but I'm happy to get it done quickly and with the compliance cert.
Regards,
I am a bit mystified by all this. We had the need on one occasion to fit our friend's baby capsule in our Defender for a trip to the airport and I followed the instructions on the unit and threaded the seatbelt through etc etc then attached the straps over the seat back to the cargo tiedown points in the rear. The setup geometry at least appeared conformed to the diagram.
Now I know that the cargo tiedown points are not rated as infant seat restraints - but come on - if the Defender is designed to have 1000kg cargo secured by them surely they would be adequate to hold a baby capsule and kid weighing 1 poofteenth of that. As far as I could make out from the entire setup, the majority of the capsule was being restrained by the regular seatbelt anyway and that's before you factor in that it was also being held from in front by the passenger's seat back.
How hard can it be for Land Rover to just get their regular cargo points modified (if necessary) and ADR approved. Surely they can afford $3000-odd to do this?