New Defender, any good?

Yes

It is more refined and comfortable to drive than my 95 Disco, has more space and more oomph. Out of the box I'd say it was more capable off road.

I made my decision based on value for money and practicality (and because it is a Land Rover).

You will read disparaging comments about the "crappy Ford engine" along the lines of "whatever were FoMoCo thinking?" and "why isn't there a Land Rover engine in it?". The fact is that the applauded diesel engines in the Discovery and Range Rovers were also made by Duratorq (Ford). After all they bought the Company and probably saved it.

If it means anything from a woman's point of view ....

We have both a Disco and now a late model Defender as well.
Each year we go up North to Arnhem Land, and this year, for some unknown reason, I felt more "secure" with the new Defender. The Disco has been great in the past, doing the same trip and hasn't let us down, but the Defender seems to be a tougher vehicle IMHO.
And it has more room inside.

Don't know why I feel more secure in the Deefer, just a personal feeling of mine.

For the time being, we'll keep both.


Mrs Bundalene

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Originally Posted by one_iota

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The fact is that the applauded diesel engines in the Discovery and Range Rovers were also made by Duratorq (Ford). After all they bought the Company and probably saved it.

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I dont think thats correct. The TDV6 was a collabaration with Peugeot and has very little to do with ford as far as I know.

For what it's worth a well know LR guy I spoke to before I got mine tried to talk me into a D3 and away from the defender... More technology, easier to drive, better on the open road, the family will find it more comfortable..all round a better buy etc.
When I asked him what he drove... he said a defender. lol.

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Originally Posted by Psimpson7

I dont think thats correct. The TDV6 was a collabaration with Peugeot and has very little to do with ford as far as I know.

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:D

Ford Duratorq engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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The 2.7 L (2720 cc) V6 is built by Ford and Jaguar Cars at their Dagenham facility, and was designed by Ford engineers at their Dunton and Whitley product development centres. It is called AJD-V6 by Jaguar and DT17 by PSA Peugeot Citroën.
Ford and PSA extended their Diesel engine joint-venture in October, 1999, to include this V6 engine.

Applications:

• 2006–present Citroën C6 2.7 V6 HDi, 204 PS (201 hp/150 kW) and 325 ft·lbf (440 N·m)
• 2008–present Citroën C5 2.7 V6 HDi, 204 PS (201 hp/150 kW) and 325 ft·lbf (440 N·m)
• 2004–2008 Jaguar S-Type 2.7 DV6, 204 PS (201 hp/150 kW) and 325 ft·lbf (440 N·m)
• 2005–present Jaguar XJ TDVi 2.7, 204 PS (201 hp/150 kW) and 325 ft·lbf (440 N·m)
• 2008–present Jaguar XF 2.7D, 204 PS (201 hp/150 kW) and 325 ft·lbf (440 N·m)
• 2005–present Land Rover Discovery Td6, 190 PS (187 hp/140 kW) and 325 ft·lbf (440 N·m)
• 2006–present Land Rover Range Rover Sport Td6, 204 PS (201 hp/150 kW) and 325 ft·lbf (440 N·m)
• 2005–present Peugeot 407 Coupé 2.7 V6 HDi, 204 PS (201 hp/150 kW) and 325 ft·lbf (440 N·m)
• 2005–present Peugeot 607 2.7 V6 HDi, 204 PS (201 hp/150 kW) and 325 ft·lbf (440 N·m)

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Well there you go! thanks.:)

Lots of interesting reading

Thanks

Can I play the devils advocate here. Given that there has been no discounting on Defenders but D3's are heavily discounted at times... are D3's actually more expensive than a defender?

I have one 6000k in my 130. Fuel usage is around 10.5/11L100K but last tank full drove at 100kmh and nursed it taking off etc and returned 9L/100K not bad for big vehicle. Dash is superb definately the best upgrade of the vehicle,dont miss the vents. Yesterday in Perth 34 Degrees and only had A/C fan on number 1. Have just chipped the ecu back to UK standards and torque is excellent no reason to want any more ( I tow an oversize 3.5 ton boat). Rear seats are very upright not really suitable for long Journeys. Overall it seems ptettygood but will see how long it lasts!

Next year we are looking at a new vehicle,I want a puma but the boss whats an auto,so it's a D3 or more likely a FL2.Does the defender come in auto in any other country?. Pat