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I forgot to add the sceptic/sarcastic emoticon to my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scallops
A couple of recovery hooks "properly" mounted to the top side of the bar in line with the chassis rails would be a better solution. I reckon that the ARB tabs would bend like a cornflake packet cut outs in the real world. I think that they are intended for keeping the winch cable hook when not in use and nothing much more.
I have used the eyelets on a ARB bull bar to tow a damaged Deefer 90 odd K's out of the Simpson Desert to Birdsville. The eyelets had been strengthened by the addition of a welded plate.This was carried out by Ritters - the bar is still in use 10+yrs later.
I used my ARB for some serious snatching and double line winch work in my old winch challange 90 . I fitted two swival tow eyes as you can see in the picture. They worked really well and gave you a good place to attc with a shackle. Also more of a chance of seeing these in mud than the eyes under the bumper :) BTWi have always used the two eyes on the front of the bumper with the Hi lift for jacking the car up ( with the Hi lift defender adapter)
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I have seen those eyes rip open.. but that was an early bar. These days they have a reinforcing ring.
There's a fair bit of leverage involved, using these can twist/rotate the the bar a fraction. Again I've seen the top rail back against the bonnet on a Disco. That thing seemed to be a sloppy fit.
Far better to fit some dedicated recovery points on the bar as close to the chassis legs as you can. Or some Jate rings.
Regards
Max P
Hey mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Reads90
Where would I find a couple of those swivel tow eyes?
Thanks
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Originally Posted by Jock The Rock
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As has been said they are Hi-Lift jacking points and for putting your winch cable hook when doing a double line pull, they were not designed as recovery points nor are they advertised as recovery points, Snatching and winching are two very different things.
From ARB: They are designed as straight pull recovery points and should not be used for a sideways recovery for fear of twisting a chasis rail. I do think they say this just to cover their ass. Because any lateral load on one chasis rail by itself has potential to do damage no matter how good your recovery points are.
As for recovery it is the same as any standard lifting practices a straight lift (pull) is allways the best but if you can share the lift this also halves the load on any given point. Therefore if posible use a sling between the points to minimise possible damage.
There is no way of saying that you will never do damage as there are allways too many variables to give a generic rule but I use these points with confidence and the proper gear.
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Cheers,
What a load of never mind, I have use those eyes both with and without a strap between them for years, both as winch points and snatch points,
they will bend side ways if you pull at an acute angle, the top of the bar will be pulled towards the bonnett if the bar isint bolted up FT,
I'v never seen one rip out of the bar,
but fit a nice set off swivel eyes looks much cooler....
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That was the quote from the young kid on the showroom floor - I rang the State manager to confirm their comments and was categorically told - NO - not to be used as recovery points. The manager then contacted Cooper's Plains ARB to instruct them to stop giving customers erroneous info about using the winch hook rings as recovery points.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR