Thread: So the PUMA goes back to the garage again tomorrow

have been on there before.....problem is what lot of people dont realise expecially when they say "well the uk transit's dont have a problem" is land rover have some of there own designed parts on this engine and tuned it there own way

I see this whole rattle problem as not a problem.You will not do damage to your engine so stop worrying.I see it as no more than my Tdi not wanting to go at 5am or the disco used to slip it's torque converter until it went a few K's and built up heat or most of my site machines that won't work at all until hot etc.I have one other problem about idleing,listen carefully as I'm only going to say this once YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HURT YOUR ENGINE BECAUSE OF IDLEING.You would need to idle the thing for hours to cause damage so don't start them and drive them,give them a minute to start up.Remember,how does a diesel ignite diesel?,by heat.Cold engine=no heat=inconsistant ignition=rattle rattle.I've never driven a vehicle that drives without an issue on a winter morning. Pat

i think you will find most people when starting there cars at least with us anyway its not a case of ignition on and back off the drive.....you fuss around doing things for Ian its fillling in his log books etc and noting the mileage and working out the totals and stuff...he then pulls off the drive and idles out our cresent......

What he doesn't do is sit there for 5/8mins warming the car up before he even puts it into gear.

Originally Posted by dullbird

have been on there before.....problem is what lot of people dont realise expecially when they say "well the uk transit's dont have a problem" is land rover have some of there own designed parts on this engine and tuned it there own way

Yes of course, pity sometimes they may have run across it before
I will ask my relatives in russia and they run them and see if they had any problems or clues mainly as they have about 6 of them and do many kilometres

Originally Posted by solmanic

Just for the record, my "rattle" is still there although it has only happened maybe twice since the EGR was replaced back in March. I am watching it like a hawk now that weather is cooling down. I'll be sending it in for the vacuum pump to be replaced sometime in the next week or so (fortunately I only have some oil seepage, not the explosive failure others have had). I will be asking the dealer to run a diagnostic check to see if any fault codes have been recorded.

I am suspicious the reason it has only happened twice since the repairs is more to do with the fact that I have changed my usual morning driving routine. Since moving house I am closer to the main road, so the vehicle is on the accelerator sooner. Before it used to always happen at the same stop sign in the morning, when coasting to a stop, or at idle. Now I don't have any stops before getting the vehicle up to speed so it's warming up quicker.

My dealer seemed pretty convinced it was the EGR, hence the replacement but I will be keen to know what, if anything, your people find.

Ok the EGR has been in for a little while now, and the temps have been cold and the air damp. I can't say the 'rattle' has re-occured but on 1 occasion it almost did. What i mean by this is that 30 mtrs down the road I 'felt' the engine change - so I dropped out of gear gave it a gentle rev for 30/60 secs and then put it back in gear - no issues. I am not 100% convinced that the EGR is the total solution but so far it seems to be a good start

Hi folks,

The same problem appears to have happened to my brand new Puma yesterday. I took off as per normal, got 300 meters down the road, it spluttered a bit, and went into limp home mode.

I pulled over, turned everything off, then back on, but it was still in limp home mode. So I drove it back home, and called "Rover Assist" (aka. NRMA), and waited a while.

The guy that turned up ummed and arghed, checked the water and oil, and asked if it was a diesel..... He plugged in his little computer, and didn't have any European Diesel models in the system, and said to take it to Land Rover.

I live about 2km's from the dealer, so I popped it round yesterday. Today they have told me it's a fuel leakage problem somewhere near the injectors, but are waiting for Land Rover to confirm the error code (they haven't seen this one before, apparently).

I enquired about a courtesy car, but was told no deal, until they know what it is.

The car is now 5 weeks old....

It doesn't really sound like the same problem we're all having. Hopefully it is as straightforward as a fuel leakage problem or something else that the error code specifically points them to. At least then it will be a positive fix as opposed to an educated let's try this.

Sounds like the same problem to me. will be interesting knowing whether it ACTUALLY IS a fuel leakage problem

Ask them what the error code is and post it up on here!