Agree there.It has to be diagnosed when the problem happens and in the same conditions. Pat
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Agree there.It has to be diagnosed when the problem happens and in the same conditions. Pat
Hi Dullbird. Sorry to hear of your woes. I hope you got a really great deal on the car when you purchased considering you are paying for a loan car. I'm not sure who you are talking to at the dealership but I suspect you really need to escalate the issue to the highest point of contact and sit down and have a meeting with them. Quite simply, you have passed over your hard earned far too easily. I would not have paid period for the loan car (except on the first occassion). It is their responsibilty to fix it without you being out of pocket and the loan car should be free. I have been very clear with the dealer in this regard and I have never paid for car for warranty issues outside of servicing. You need to be firm and say it with a smile, get them to agree there is an issue that they should find and fix - works for me. Cheers...Quote:
Originally Posted by dullbird
As much as i feel for you, you might need to go the Winging POM treatment and ring ACA......
It has worked for a mate with a toyo once...
Is there any change in the smoke colour when it happens? Could be an injector tip problem. Only does it at an exact temperature / circumstance and sounds like like a rattly piston? If it is you should notice a change in the colour of smoke while it's happening. (probably a bit hard to notice while driving though)
injectors were changedQuote:
Originally Posted by jskerm
ahh but were they?
I'm guessing they were as we had to take the car back as they were on order and not coming in to the following week..
another person in the uk who also had a water in the fuel problem is also having what he describes as an engine knock problem...
thought what he wrote was intersting
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On a more upbeat note, the dealers had a meeting with some people from land rover about why my lr keeps breaking down over the last year or so and they think they have come up with the cause. They think the pump is over pressurising and when the injectors reach critical pressure it is dumping fuel in leading to semi-hydrolock. Just waiting for parts to be delivered.
The biggest problem seems to be that parts are being replaced left right and center with no knowledge of what is happening.No one seems to know where the problem is and what parts are making a difference.It looks to me like the dealers are just chasing thier tails. Pat
I had a similar experience with my inlaws Citroen, local dealer could not put a finger on the problem so I called Citroen Customer Service, with the complete 6 month repair/repair tale etc... they appointed a liaison person, who it seemed got the dealer service people talking with other people who had solved same problem.
Probably worth a polite call to LR Customer Service people, and see what they can do to help. At least it gives LR a chance to earn some brownie points with the client!
not buying that for a second. the pressure involved in opening even an old school injector is well beyond most electric pumps and definately beyond any mechanical lift pump.Quote:
Originally Posted by dullbird
what I can buy is this.
1. they fobbed you off till they had a gap in the work schedule to get your vehicle in did some faffery, got a temp fix and called it a day.
2. they did change the injectors but they pooched the install
3. they didnt clean the fuel system out correctly so now you're back at square 1 and need yet another complete fuel system overhaul.
for the injectors to be leakingunder pump pressure enough to cause hydraulicing youd pretty much have to remove the needle from the injector. I might buy that some injectors are dribbling and the residual pressure in the fuel rail is leaking into the pot when the engines off but in that case you wouldnt get a start (because the engine would be hydrauliced) and if you did you'd have a pretty much constant case of diesel knock, the injector condition would worsen, leak more and by now the engine would have done a runaway like the detroit 2 strokes do when they melt the injector nozzle.