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Thread: Waste of a day - rear a frame ball pivot.

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    Thumbs down Waste of a day - rear a frame ball pivot.

    Long story, too tired so this is the short version!
    Had a clunk in the rear suspension, sounded the same as the clunk on the last 'fender I had, so i went and bought a new upper pivot ball thingy.
    I knew it was going to be a tough one as I have no oxy or press.
    Anyway, got the taper knocked loose, undid the 2 long bolts and the 2 sides of the A-frame are all floppy!!!
    the bushes that fix it to the chassis have worn on the bolts.
    The rubber is fine, just the bolts were not done up anyway near tight enough when last replaced.
    To make matters worse I don't have a socket/spanner that fits these bolts.

    The ball pivot was fine, but the threads left a little to be desired, so I belted it out and fitted the new one.

    Now at least I know it (the ball pivot) should be fine for a while, but tomorrow I have to get a socket (anyone know what size they are on a 130?? 28m? 29mm?) and take them out and see what the damage is, I'll bet the bolts are knackered as well as the inside of the bushes. I just hope the movement hasn't flogged out the inside surfaces of the chassis brackets!

    Feel like I've achieved nought for the day, and I hit my cheekbone on the rear corner of the tray and ended up sitting on the floor for a wee bit!

    Oh well!

    Fraser

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    Quote Originally Posted by fraser130 View Post
    anyone know what size they are on a 130?? 28m? 29mm?
    Just did a quick measure for you, mine is 27mm for an 01 130.
    By the looks of it you will need a shifter or spanner AND the socket - there is no way you will get a socket onto the outside parts

    Hopefully helpful mate have fun

    Fraz

    edit: thats a measurement with a shifter and my measuring tape, not a real socket!!
    Last edited by Fraz; 4th January 2010 at 07:43 PM. Reason: update

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    Thanks Fraz,

    Fraz.

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    I'm struggleing to see how, spending a day playing with your Landy, finding things that will improve it and now having an excuse to buy more tools is a waste of a day?


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    Oh, you'll likely need a decent spanner, although I usually use a Bahco 12" and a socket with 2' bar to undo these, they can be a mongrel

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    I can think of a bloody hard way of pressing in the actual rubber or poly bushes into the A frame but how are you going to correctly press the new metal sleeves into the bushes without a press?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobbo View Post
    I can think of a bloody hard way of pressing in the actual rubber or poly bushes into the A frame but how are you going to correctly press the new metal sleeves into the bushes without a press?
    I see where you are comming from, but I'm currently kinda broke, and we are heading away camping in the beast on Friday!

    Fraser

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    Oh, you'll likely need a decent spanner, although I usually use a Bahco 12" and a socket with 2' bar to undo these, they can be a mongrel
    I'm pretty sure the bushes are recent, the rubber is excellent, the B@#$#@ds who replaced them just didn't tighten them enough. (was before I bought the car).

    I think tomorrow I'll just tighten them as far as I can without doing further damage, and see if that grabs the central tube on the bush, failing that it will have to wait till I get back, after all, it's just a clunk I guess.
    Fraser

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    Make sure you put some oil on the threads of the bolts before you put it back together,if the threads are dry the nut will get tight on the thread before the centre tube has been nipped up and tighten them with the suspension at normal road height You could get 1/2" longer bolts and then cut 1/2" off so there is more shank in the centre tube.

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    Last clunk I had under there was play between the bolt and crush tube.
    Both were flogged out, so new bushes and bolts went in.

    Burnt and hacksawed the old ones out (no press and a makehift manual one, large threaded rod, huge washers, etc wouldn't shift the bush)
    New ones were easy, I used Super Pro.

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