400,000 miles in a Tesla Model S in 3 years

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The billions of people in the Northern Hemisphere currently experiencing record heat waves would consider you to be talking out of your Southern Hemisphere...

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Mate I lived in Saudi Arabia and drove to Europe in one of the most severe heat waves experienced in 1986.
Hundreds died in Athens. In Turkey there was no reliable electricity to run the air conditioning as they were in the middle of building more coal fired stations.

There have always been heat waves, but cold kills far more people than heat.

Oh, I forgot the record cold winter in Canada and the USA this year was because of climate change!


Regards Philip A

Australia's fuel stockpile is perilously low, so why aren't we stocking up? - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Sooner that you thought

Electrification across entire Toyota line-up by 2025 - Toyota

here we go

Ce camping car a energie solaire fonctionne sans carburant ni station de recharge

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The billions of people in the Northern Hemisphere currently experiencing record heat waves would consider you to be talking out of your Southern Hemisphere... [bighmmm]

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Australia's fuel stockpile is perilously low, so why aren't we stocking up? - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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Thailand has piles of plastic in dumps as we do, however they turn their plastic into diesel in a process designed by Americans. Its has no pollution and I believe things cycle around a few times before the diesel is produced. A asked our fearless leaders when it his the news we only had 45 days supply, why doesn't Australia try this and gain some independence in case of conflict, and clean up much of our plastics destined to be buried as land fill. I got silance.

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

Hallelujah, pass the ammunition!
There aren't any more pious than those who are recently converted.

Thank goodness there are only a few people who have converted.

I thought about reporting this thread for the emerging religious fervor.

FACTS hurricanes have diminished according to NOAA, wildfires in California are only a fraction of what they were 200 years ago. It's just there are more people affected. And no forest thinning.

FACT The low point of ice an the Arctic was in 2007. It has been recovering since. FACT Polar bears are increasing greatly in numbers

FACT Coral Bleaching on the barrier reef is 10% more than 200 years ago.

FACT the Antarctic is increasing in ice mass, despite the 70 or so volcanoes recently discovered under.

Regards Philip A

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What was that about ammunition, seems you better check some facts. And no Philip, no religious beliefs for me, but I do believe in the nature being bigger and grander than any of us, doesn't hurt to respect what you can touch and fell.
2012 Arctic Report Card | NOAA Climate.gov
Global Warming Frequently Asked Questions | NOAA Climate.gov

I give up.
it's impossible to debate with religion.

I just checked the 2018 maximum ice extent figures vs 2011 and they are down by 00.27%. Oh the horror.

Al Gore was sort of right when he said all the ice would be gone by when was it 2014? And of course New York is certainly under water by now . Didn't James Hanson predict that in 2007 with lovely graphics? And our own Tim Flannery predicted what was it? 5 metres of sea level rise by 2015 ( then bought a house 1metre above sea level which he has now sold and is still not under water). And all the poor sods who had houses a few metres above sea level got insurance increases of up to 500% because of the nutty prediction.

Using very old figures is a common trait of the religious. Conditions change so thinking should change.

Nobody knew about the volcanoes under Antarctic until last year.

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Thailand has piles of plastic in dumps as we do, however they turn their plastic into diesel in a process designed by Americans. Its has no pollution and I believe things cycle around a few times before the diesel is produced. A asked our fearless leaders when it his the news we only had 45 days supply, why doesn't Australia try this and gain some independence in case of conflict, and clean up much of our plastics destined to be buried as land fill. I got silance.

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Whoever responded with “silance” was being kind.

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Nobody knew about the volcanoes under Antarctic until last year.

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Thanks for that, I didn't know about that, so I looked it up. Strangely enough, the top search results were about scientists who went out and sampled the ocean, looked for certain isotope ratios, did the number crunching and worked out that volcano heating adds 3 poofteenths of bugger all to the melting rates.

What to believe, anecdotes with random factoids or scientific data backed by rigorous analysis? Ooh, a hard one, for sure.

Anyway, in other news, Range Rover plug-in hybrids have been test driven by journos, apparently they can do around 30 miles on battery power alone and are backed by a 4 cylinder petrol engine. Baby steps. [bigsmile1]