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    Saving the World with hydrogen just took a step closer

    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Don’t do the math. It gets in the way.

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    And the World is not flat. Time will tell if it is real, or a scam.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    If the process is genuinely scalable as they suggest, then there may be hope for the world yet. I would suggest a water powered vehicle in the outback would not be a viable option.
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    Los Angeles wants to build a hydrogen-fueled power plant. It’s never been done before

    "Another research firm, Bloomberg New Energy Finance, recently projected the costs of renewable hydrogen production will fall from $2.50-$6.80 per kilogram in 2019 to $1.40-$2.90 by 2030. By mid-century, costs could fall to $0.80 per kilogram.
    “For a hydrogen economy to develop, massive amounts of the gas will need to be produced at low cost and with minimal emissions,” Bloomberg wrote. “The rapidly declining costs of renewable energy and electrolyzers now make this possible.”


    Wish our governments had a lot more foresight.

    Los Angeles wants to build a hydrogen-fueled power plant. It’s never been done before

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    Check the Joi youtube linked video at

    ~1:34


    "....making enough hydrogen to power the process itself and generate plenty more......"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    Check the Joi youtube linked video at

    ~1:34


    "....making enough hydrogen to power the process itself and generate plenty more......"

    Y'all know the tune

    Hello entropy my old friend,
    someone claims to've bested you again,
    Half truths and lies are creeping
    To catch the unaware populous sleeping
    Challenged by facts, math worked in my brain
    The truth remains
    Within the realms of science.
    My brain loves the idea of a perpetual engine yet I suspect that great idea will be a little longer coming than JOI Scientific is letting on. Fusion is almost a perpetual engine.

    Why not is worth investigating The best to date is cool 1864 and still running today!

    The Beverly Clock, a clock invented in 1864 by Arthur Beverly and located in the foyer of the Department of Physics at the University of Otago in Dunedin, New Zealand. Run on atmospheric pressure and changes in the temperature, an airtight box inside the clock expands and contracts throughout the day pushing on a diaphragm. It takes only a six-degree Celsius temperature variation over a day to raise a one-pound weight an inch. This in turn descends, powering the clock.



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    Sorry to say they (JOI) even admit that it doesn't work - it was a multi million $$$$ scam in my view.


    "It’s actually something that is used in heating and cooling systems. You know what beats a CoP of 1? Systems like geothermal heat pumps which gain energy from an external source, using electricity to route a heat transfer fluid through a warmer or colder medium. That’s not what Joi Scientific is claiming, however. The company is claiming that it is putting electricity into a device which splits sea water into hydrogen and oxygen and gaining so much excess energy as to achieve 400% efficiency results.That’s pretty remarkable. But that’s still not all.Next Joi Scientific claimed hyper-efficient use of hydrogen as an energy source. It claimed that the company was able to use the resulting hydrogen in either a combustion or fuel cell model to generate enough energy to keep the process going indefinitely. Hydrogen in combustion or fuel cells is ~60% efficient at best. To gain net hydrogen for use elsewhere, this implies that they would have to achieve around 170% energy efficiency to be able to create hydrogen continuously. If Joi Scientific has managed to get well above 60% with hydrogen fueling its process, it would have won another Nobel Prize for that. Of course, it didn’t.Another red flag was the lack of any actual output numbers beyond what was claimed in the patents. Nothing. No technical input/output results. No reports. No white papers. No scientific papers. No peer-reviewed results. No third-party results. Nothing."
    Joi Scientific's Perpetual Hydrogen Illusion Comes Tumbling Down | CleanTechnica

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    HAZER GROUP AND BOC AGREE TERM SHEET FOR HYDROGEN OFFTAKE

    BOC is a nice big player in GAS. nice to see them playing ball with a very nifty little sand groper I like

    Not investment advice!

    https://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistic...idsId=02185933

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    Japan just gave Hydrogen a big kick
    Toyota Woven City Will Weave Together AI, Hydrogen Power And The Future

    CES 2020: Toyota Woven City Will Weave Together AI, Hydrogen Power And The Future

    WA Government is working to get ahead of the curve in hydrogen as well. This 1.6m announcment is to be followed by another 7-8mill currently under assessment for capital works. I love SandGoppers.
    Media statement - Funding for studies to kick-start hydrogen industry

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