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80 Litres of fuel $120[bawl]
Not doing that for months now has made me forget the hand in pocket event an almost dry tank gives me. For a crook comp cost comparison 42 kwh of power did not cost $13.44 as despite the rain and cloud about 30% was solar. I must be becoming a tight arse [bigrolf]
Lucid Motors beats Tesla in range, going 520 miles on a charge, the E.P.A. says.
520 miles is Melbourne to Sydney! Thats is a bit of a up yours to a Certain EV man who doesn't like Divers [thumbsupbig]
I really dont think that range is the real issue for current EVs - 400km to 500km while not ideal is OK. The issue is how long it takes to recharge and how do you recharge at home. The later is probably OK in the suburbs if you pay for a high rate charger but for people in the inner city areas who dont have garages and have to park on the road this is a major issue.
When public quick charging infrastructure is provided that can fully charge a car in 5 minutes then Evs will be a viable option for a single car family. At the moment if you can charge at home or at work than EVs make a great second car for commuting but for anything else you need a second ICE vehicle for longer distance travel.
Agree.
I read last year in Norway a survey was done on EV owners and it was found that 70% of EV owners retained an ICE vehicle, even with the enormous subsidies given for EV ownership.
There was also a survey in the USA where it was found that an EV was typically the fifth vehicle in a family.
This indicates to me that there will be a market for ICE vehicles long into the future.
Regards PhilipA
That 80 litres would get my 101 around 350KM - which is why I had to make a 160 litre tank for it - I now get ‘normal’ km per tank as everyone else. [bigrolf]Quote:
Originally Posted by NavyDiver
I also don’t look at the price of fuel when filling up or keep receipts…[bigwhistle]
My servo down the road had diesel at $1.55 ltr when I last filled up(10 days ago). By the end of the week it had gone up to $1.57.
Friday it had gone up to $1.59. Our US to AUS dollar has gone down by .2c during the last couple of weeks, so the price of fuel
has gone up.
Wonder if the dollar will keep going down?
Very tempted by the Rivian - Cannot get it here yet. If I could suspect my D3's days with my are numbered. D3 which is now only a tow tug. The mg is going to the kids in 2-3 years time when I will have a FCEV or EV D3 capable option.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipA
I am an optimist of course. I may need to be as I love fishing and Diving and am seeing and reading of issues that require people to step up and make choices as soon as they can.
Canada is flying in 40 tonnes of fish to stop people starving was one bit of news that made me go WOW[tonguewink] Tropical fish eating kelp beds. Massive out breaks of Diadema antillarum (sea urchins) in southern waters, Abalone seeming to disappear in front of me in places that had thousands just recently. I might be sensitive of course.
Alaska's Indigenous tribes 'livid', turn to hunting as salmon stocks dwindle on Yukon River
Alaska'''s Indigenous tribes '''livid''', turn to hunting as salmon stocks dwindle on Yukon River - ABC News
Mate I think you are getting a bit excited about something minor as far as emissions are concerned.
According to the US EPA site , total transportation emissions amount to 14% of total emissions.
That includes passenger vehicles , trucks , public Transport, railways, ships , and whatever else uses fuel to move..
So what would passenger cars share be? maybe 30% or less?.
So if we halve passenger car emissions it will mean a say 2% reduction in World CO2 emissions.
BIG DEAL, with ultimately no measurable or discernable effect on climate yet enormous effects on consumers .
Be careful what you wish for.
Regards PhilipA
Too lazy to google but I do recall reading years ago that volcanoes erupting and other gaseous earth leaks are a huge source of emissions and a few days of volcanic activity is equivalent to a few years of man made crap.
Just dredging up from old memory cells.
But while vehicles may not be as big a total contributor when put in world context, I look forward to the day when those cities who were blessed to see a clear sky and far away mountains under lockdown can see the same again with roads full of non smog creating cars.
I might be Philip. I do like the idea of the power up, smooth power increase at all speed from zero to legal electric motors give. The significant servicing cost mentioned by a gent coming back to Landrovers must be overlooked /ignored for us at times as well.[biggrin]. Ritta has texted me twice now. Ill take the Disco for its now 'yearly service' in a week or two. I was chewing though service intervals every 3-4 months in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipA
Not kidding re abalone suddenly leaving a big area here ( I note it may be abalone viral ganglioneuritis from Portland to Warrnabool). The sea urchins suddenly going nuts down to Tassie or some other non cold water invasions we are seeing here and the Canadian/Alaskan news shocking to this black duck. I bet the bears are not happy either! Suspect they mind find other food which just may make bushwalking and camping a WHOLE LOT more dangerous in Northern America?
I will not pretend to know the C02 emissions from my car/boat/lawnmower/blower vac business or house. I can do a little bit and will as better options become available. Over reaction or under reactions can be an issue. Option which make money and do the job are my preference
The Melbourne to Sydney Tesla beating Lucid motors 520 mile range or the Rivian with the extra $10k of batteries are impressive $$$$PRICES and range[biggrin] The Rivian is a few years from here and Lucid is not my cup of tea.
Rivians plans to put huge DC fast charge points at the front of Trail heads in the US. We needs a similar option(s) here before we can really consider the Canning Stock Route 1700 km or similar, Noting my prior D3 with long range tanks have would struggle 1700km off road of course.
A gent at a company near me which has a free 10kwh dc charger I used once, mentioned they have a 200kw +dc super version about to roll out. 350kW dc version are already at some places despite almost nothing to charge with them :)
The 7kwAC at home or the several 50kw DC freebies I use from time to time are chalk and cheese. Home its 5 hours. 50kw is well sub an hour. Those new 250+ charging beasts would not help my ev. They will help the new ones coming.
Not needing a nuclear power plant in my car to be less carbon emitting myself happily. An affordable long range 4wd towing capable FCEV would do me fine when it get here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpBMld6U9B0