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    You also need to factor in import duty (how much?) luxury car tax, and the cost of engineering to meet ADRs (or prove that the personal import meets them), and GST on all of the above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    If Ford decide to do a right hand drive from the factory the extra $50K required here to do it currently would be gone - but that's a big if yes.
    Off topic but why do we stick to the left still? Costs us all a lot of money! "It's a question that arises surprisingly often among travellers, especially those considering renting a car. Which countries drive on the right and which drive on the left? Approximately two-thirds of the global population drive on the right side of the street. All in all, 163 countries and territories have right-hand drive traffic while vehicles use the left-side in 76 countries.
    The bulk of countries that drive on the left are former British colonies including South Africa, Australia and New Zealand. Only four countries in Europe still drive on the left and they are all islands. They consist of the UK, the Republic of Ireland, Malta and Cyprus"

    That said the steering aside. Almost everything else in a EV is wired not physical. ( whoops add the brake perhaps)

    The 50k might be true to shift a RHD to LHD in ICE. Suspect it is a lot lower in a EV.

    waiting for 2024 is sooooo slow "Toyota this week previewed a total of 16 new electric vehicles – including a model that appears to share plenty with the Toyota LandCruiser, as well an electric answer to the FJ Cruiser."Toyota released the very first image of an all-electric ute that will no doubt replace the diesel-chugging HiLux we know today - and possibly as soon as 2024 - did the internet begin to light up with comments about it not being a real ute, and that it couldn’t possibly keep up with the diesels of today.Well, I’ve got bad news for you. You’re wrong." (19 Dec 2021) posted before.


    Will Landrover surprise us? Suspect so or they are a DoDo

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    Off topic but why do we stick to the left still? Costs us all a lot of money!
    This is true, but would also cost a lot of money to now make the switch.

    The time to make the switch was probably 50-60 years ago before so much of our traffic control systems became automated (such as traffic lights).

    Would be nice though if we were a LHD country.

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    India and AFAIR Sri Lanka is RHD and one of the fastest growing markets in the World, as well as South Africa and I think Zim and Zambia.
    Also the BIG one is of course Japan.
    Oops Malaysia, Thailand ,New Zealand.
    As long as Japan produces cars we pay no penalty for them at all.

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    Being an island, there is little advantage in changing sides to drive. Against this is the enormous cost of doing so (think redesigning every significant intersection and road junction in the country - overnight!), and the legacy of cars and trucks with the steering wheel on the wrong side; and remember that the median age of cars is over ten years, so these would be around in substantial numbers for over a decade.

    A worse situation exists with buses, which universally have doors only on the left side. Since replacing all buses overnight is clearly impossible, you would be left with the procedure I saw in Rangoon (now Yangon) in the 1980s. They had bought a fleet of s/h buses from Thailand, which drives on the left Burma (now Myanmar) drives on the right. So at every bus stop, the conductor needed to alight and signal the next lane of traffic to stop, allowing passengers on and off.

    And then there are the trams. While the vehicles have doors both sides as a general rule, the physical infrastructure of stops is tied to the traffic direction, so again, an enormous amount of structural change to take place overnight.

    No, it ain't gonna to happen!
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    I want you to hark back to the big Whinge by VW that nobody would sell EVs in Australia because the subsidies are not big enough.
    Guess who is one of the ONLY brands not represented in Australia.
    EV sales in 2021 were up @200% from a small base but look at the brands who are here.
    Notice that the Porsche Taycan is the top seller, excluding Tesla of course who do not play ball.
    13 brands in the market is pretty good product offering to me.
    Porsche Taycan 531
    Mercedes-Benz EQA 367
    Nissan Leaf 367 (370)
    Mercedes-Benz EQC 298 (194)
    Hyundai Ioniq 5 172
    Audi e-tron 108 (64)
    BMW i3 67 (55)
    Jaguar I-Pace 44 (70)
    BMW iX 35
    Hyundai Nexo 26
    Toyota Mirai 12
    PS I don't know why MG isn't there.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    I want you to hark back to the big Whinge by VW that nobody would sell EVs in Australia because the subsidies are not big enough.
    Guess who is one of the ONLY brands not represented in Australia.
    EV sales in 2021 were up @200% from a small base but look at the brands who are here.
    Notice that the Porsche Taycan is the top seller, excluding Tesla of course who do not play ball.
    13 brands in the market is pretty good product offering to me.
    Porsche Taycan 531
    Mercedes-Benz EQA 367
    Nissan Leaf 367 (370)
    Mercedes-Benz EQC 298 (194)
    Hyundai Ioniq 5 172
    Audi e-tron 108 (64)
    BMW i3 67 (55)
    Jaguar I-Pace 44 (70)
    BMW iX 35
    Hyundai Nexo 26
    Toyota Mirai 12
    PS I don't know why MG isn't there.
    I suspect Tesla is the biggest seller. They're not in any tables like this because they dont report sales numbers.

    Your comments are also interesting because Porsche and Audi are owned by VAG (VW)
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    I found a new player in the market today..





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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post

    No, it ain't gonna to happen!
    Never say never.

    If the other RHD countries start to change over,and manufacturers continue to drop off manufacturing RHD vehicles,anything can happen.

    But anyway,it will be a long way off,and well past my time on this planet no doubt.
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